Hi Jallan,
Jallan wrote:
Cor Nouws wrote:
I don't think it is a bug.
If I paste text with character-formatting in paragraph (with of course
a style), it is logic that the pasted text has character-formatting.
If I want to paste without formatting, I choose 'Paste Special'.
Quite reasonable.
But making an exception for the default paragraph character style is not
so reasonable, especially if you are working with text in a number of
different formats adjoining each other, for example dictionary entries
or grammatical text.
I didn't notice an exeption for the default paragraph style.
Every paragraph style (well, I only tried six ;-) has the same behaviour.
When pasted, direct formatting (be it by Ctrl-B or character styles) the
formatting is included.
When text without direct formatting is pasted, it gets the formatting of
where it is placed.
There bold, italic, and roman text commonly touch one another. After
all, spaces also must be one of these three.
It is annoying when pasting mixed material of this sort into other mixed
material to see your normal roman text suddenly become italicized or
bold, not retaining its necessary character-formatting, not following
your reasonable logic, but following a more complex logic.
Maybe not handy, that's true. But I may hope that pasting text with
direct formatting in clean paragraphs, is more common than the other way
round.
It's nice to know now I could have avoid this unpleasantness by the
kludge of setting my default paragraph font to something like Algerian
and then just using direct formatting instead to paste over it. But I
really shouldn't be encouraged into a kludge like that.
Sorry, can't see what's kludgy. As long as you work with paragraph
styles whenever possible. See above.
And if I need to get rid of unwnated formatting (mostly in others
work) I choose Format|Default. Removes all direct formatting.
Easy enough.
But the difficulty is that the changing of text in the normal paragraph
font style into bold and italic was unwanted formatting. Yes, I can get
rid of the unwanted, automatic, formatting changes of my normal text to
bold or italic by selecting each such section and applying Format-Default.
If only OOo Writer had followed your logic and the formatting had indeed
been left alone when I pasted.
I do not understand what you mean with my logic. I work with Writer's
logic, and tried to explain that.
Increasingly I found myself using Paste Special, not to paste without
formatting, but to paste *with* formatting, using the RTF option and
then removing the extra paragraph it inserts, just to keep the
formatting I wanted.
Looks as if you are working in a style-unfriendly environment ;-)
I can see the logic of considering the default character attributes in a
paragraph style as sort of a background text style, to be treated
specially.
But I don't think it was a good idea to follow that particular logic. I
prefer the logic you first indicated: pasting defaults to retaining
formatting, and would prefer that being the rule in all circumstances.
I could live with your rule as well. But I think pasting text without
direct formatting adapts to the place where pasted, is easier than that
it doesn't adapt. That would influence every paste action.
Greetings,
Cor
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