----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Pepperdine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: [users] tabs outside margins do not show up properly


On Friday 16 June 2006 16:51, Immanuel CRC Office wrote:
Andy Pepperdine wrote:
> On Friday 16 June 2006 15:05, Immanuel CRC Office wrote:
>> G. Roderick Singleton wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 09:19 -0400, Immanuel CRC Office wrote:
>>>> I am converting a Word document and have found that OpenOffice.org
>>>> does not appear to allow tab stops outside the page margin.
>>>>
>>>> For instance, in Word, I have 0.5" left, and 1.1" right on letter
>>>> paper. This gives me about 6.7" of text space. If I make a right tab
>>>> at 7.28", the text only goes to the edge of the text space, to 6.7"
>>>> when I want the text to go beyond. Is there any way to do this? If I
>>>> look at the settings, they do say 7.28" for the tab, but the text
>>>> doesn't end up there.
>>>>
>>>> If this is not possible, then is the 'workaround' to set the page
>>>> margins bigger and set most lines in further? That's not really a
>>>> great solution since it is easier to do extra tab for the lines that
>>>> want to go out further.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help to get s workable solution,
>>>> Crystle
>>>
>>> Crystal,
>>>
>>> I think you have two choices.
>>>
>>>      1. Use a frame
>>>      2. Use the Marginalia feature.
>>>
>>> (1) is probably the easiest if you do not need to do a lot.
>>>
>>> And you could always modify the page style.
>>
>> The partial problem is transferring this back and forth with Word >> people
>> so it needs to be something that is supported in both and easy to use.
>>
>> Frames and Marginalia both don't seem like they will work.
>>
>> Any other ideas out there? Anyone know why OOo can't have a tab stop
>> outside a margin?
>
> Crystle,
>
> Two other ideas.
>   1. Use a table, with columns at the tab positions
>   2. Use different paragraph styles for those lines where you want the
> lines to be long, and set an indent after text for the other paragraph
> styles.
>
> It depends very much on what effect you are trying to achieve. What do
> expect to happen when you tab to the far position, and just keep on
> typing indefinitely? Where would expect the actual edge to be? When > would
> you expect the next line to be started? Where would you expect the next
> line to start?

I'm trying to have a bit of text, on the last line of some items, to
extend past all the others on the page, to highlight that text. (minutes
with the name of the person who needs to follow up)

I always use tables for minutes and agendas. Create a table with one column
for the item number, another for the minutes, and another for the action
information, etc. You can set the text in the cells in the action column to be aligned at the bottom if you want. Select the whole column, right click ->
Cell -> Bottom

You can also create different table contents styles for that column to ensure it in bold, or different font or size, etc. without having to switch yourself
each time.


In MS Office the tab stop can be outside the margin, so that is what we
decided to do since it was easiest to do.

I think I'll have to do an RFE to get this evaluated.


--
Andy Pepperdine

Just Shift/Enter the last line on the page to create a separate paragraph, put the cursor in this line and then shift the right margin marker to the right outside the page border! You will have to 'massage' the text position on this last line a bit, but that should give you exactly, what you require.
Good luck,
Max Haltermann.

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