>Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:17:48 +0300 >From: Mox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_Part_190108_24491542.1155748668447" >Subject: [mac] [Fwd: Re: [users] Re: Mac 2.0.3 OOo Menus/Toolbars All >White]
>And why? >If we now change the colors from light to dark and when there is a next >person that asks for the more Mac-like colors (which the current colors >are >for), do we then change the dark colors back to lighter ones? >We cannot possibly make everybody happy. This person, who complained about >the light colors actually wants to make OOo look more like Windows, less >like Mac. This is against our goal. >Luckily we have a system (the macosxrc.txt file) that allows even these >eccentric people to customize things so that they can be happy. > Mox >(Waiting for the time when we have aqua-buttons and along comes a user who >wants to get rid of the "ugly" blue things and replace them with "better" >gray boxes, like in X11-version. Heck that would be even more >cross-platform. Yay.) Dear "Mox" from "fi". It seems you have problems understanding what this discussion is all about. You specify people who spend their time for improving ooo as being "eccentric", which I managed to translate to the German word "verschroben". This will help nobody, and it is a rude method to end - or suffocate - a constructive discussion. You are trying to move the topic from a businesslike level to an emotional one. I think this should be avoided whenever possible. To go back to a factual level, I now try to summarize the facts: - ooo for Mac currently uses X11, not Aqua. - ooo uses the Aqua colours, but not the Aqua user interface elements - ooo does not have 3D pulsating buttons etc.. - ooo uses its own style (however it's called), but with Aqua colours. So it's a mixture of two UI styles. - The Aqua colours look fine with Aqua UI elements. The elements' borders are well defined and clearly visible. The UI is consistent. - With Aqua colours, but ooo's UI elements the buttons' borders e.g. are no longer clearly visible. Which is plausible, as the buttons are not blue, but white and grey. The main purpose of this discussion is to improve the usability. To let buttons look like buttons. To make UI elements (like scroll bars, buttons, etc.) in a dialogue box distinguishable without putting the nose nearer than 5 cm from the display. Of course a true, consistent Aqua GUI would be nicer for most Mac users. But this discussion does not belong to the topic discussed here. And - of course - making the grey colour darker would make things look more like Windows. Which Windows? Windows 95? 98? XP? No, XP is more like beige, as far as I know. And I think one would have to make the grey colour VERY dark, e.g. from 244 to 150, to make it look like Windows 95. This is not what I suggested. Do you remember? I suggested: - Either make the grey a little bit (!) darker. This would not look like Windows 95, would it? - Or include the colour selection to the GUI, i.e. let the user change the colour without editing a configuration data file. It should not be the final goal to prevent ooo from looking like Windows 95. It should be the goal to make it well usable, without having to change some config files. Does one have to change config files when using "Microsoft Office for Mac"? No, so why should one have to when using ooo? Finally: why all these bad words about Windows? I do not use Windows. And I do not care about Windows' dialogue box background colour. You allege that people liking higher GUI contrast in fact want to have a Windows (remember what Windows version?) look-and-feel on the Mac. First this is not true, and second, why not? Many people are using Windows, and these people are not bad people (at least not all of them), are they? -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
