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From: "G. Roderick Singleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "Ron Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 19 August 2006 14:28
Subject: Re: [users] HTML
On Sat, 2006-08-19 at 10:47 +0100, Ron Ferguson wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory L. Forster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "OpenOffice Users" <[email protected]>
Sent: 15 August 2006 22:29
Subject: [users] HTML
> Couple of issues: I use OpenOffice 2.0.3.
> OpenOffice has an "HTML Document" - File/New/HTML Document. The
> documentation for OpenOffice notes in Calc and Writer, how to read and
> write in HTML. However, nothing is said in the documentation
> specifically
> about this HTML Document creator. I learned that HTML documents are
> easier to work with when saving them as HTML from Writer. Also, if you
> want to mix text with graphics in your HTML creation, you better know,
> or
> have an understanding of HTML, otherwise, you're in for a shock when you
> design an HTML document with graphics and text right where you want
> them,
> but when displayed in Internet Explorer, or Firefox, your display is not
> what you designed in OpenOffice.
>
> A while ago, I had another question for the OpenOffice users group.
> An
> individual led me to using the free program conTEXT to resolve my issue.
> I also discovered that conTEXT is an excellent HTML code editor, besides
> an excellent text editor, showing the displayed HTML text as black and
> the
> HTML code tags as blue, codes as dark blue and the line you're working
> on
> highlighted tag arrows as red. This automatic color coding makes editing
> a
> breeze. However OpenOffice has a very annoying habit.
>
> When you first create an HTML document using Writer, first create the
> graphic. Then use a text editor to examine your creation. Using
> conTEXT
> with its automatic color coding of HTML makes examining easy.
> OpenOffice
> makes a lot of useful entries, however makes many useless entries as
> well.
> As you go, designing your HTML document, you may wish to check its W3C
> HTML validation. As is, OpenOffice is NOT W3C HTML compliant! A lot of
> "cleaning up" has to be done every time OpenOffice is used! For
> example,
> there is no HTML code NAME= in the 4.0 compliance. Every time
> OpenOffice
> is used, all the NAME= and the text that follows (that OpenOffice
> automatically inserts) has to be deleted to be W3C validated. How come?
> Why are all the codes sloppily added one right after each other on the
> same line, instead of a nice clean order on separate lines and columns?
> Each time I use OpenOffice for whatever reason, in the creation of an
> HTML
> document, I have to use the text editor to massively clean up OpenOffice
> in order to make it W3C validated.
>
> Greg
I have previously drawn attention to the poor quality of the HTML coding
and
the non-compliance with the WC3 standards. Also that the latest standard
is
WC4.01. Frankly I found the this part of the program of no value and far
more trouble than it was worth so I have gone back to mainly manual
programming. At least it is in the correct version and WC4.01
(Transitional)
compliant. I have no expectations of anything being done about this
quality
issue.
Ron,
I am interested. Please post the issue number to the list.
Thank you for your interest. I have not raised this as an issue as I had
never intended to use OOo for writing web pages. On one occasion I
inadvertently opened one of my webpages in OOo and it completely mangled the
coding which I had to rewrite.
Another time was deliberate when I was hoping to convert an rtf file into an
html formatted page but again I had to recode the page. If it would help I
am happy to delve into this further and supply specific examples but would
advise that whilst I am quite html literate I know nothing about writing
software.
BTW there seems to be an error when embedding html links in that eg. for an
address <a href="www.me.com" target="blank"> only the first and last
inverted commas appear (IIRC).
Ron Ferguson
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