Hi Enno,

>From the first view it looks like the office is not able to copy
documents from USB stick ( UCB is used internally for this ), and as you
have already written the shell commands "mv" and "cp" work pretty well.

I can not remember about any known problem in this area, it should be
investigated. Could you please submit a new issue to me.

Thanks,
Mikhail.

Enno Fennema wrote:
> Hi Mikhail,
> Started with a common clean USB stick - no mapping, no encryption.
> Created v 1.1.3 .sxc spreadsheet which could be saved a first time but 
> not thereafter.
> 
> Followed your suggestion and installed OO 2.0.3.
> Loaded the just created .sxc spreadsheet from the stick. Ok.
> Changed a few fields.
> Save to stick
>     Dialog about new .ods format
>     Said Yes, do convert
>     Saved.
> Close document and loaded .ods spreadsheet
> Changed a few fields
> Save
>    !!   Could not create backup copy
> So it appears problem is still there.
> By the way, you were right. Save and SaveAs suffer from same problem.
> Saving/loading from ordinary disk /home/enno works fine.
> I am foxed, can you unfox me.
> 
> Regards,
> Enno
> 
> 
> 
> Mikhail Voitenko wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi Enno,
>>
>>Please see my comments inline.
>>
>>Enno Fennema wrote:
>> 
>>
>>
>>>Hi Mikhail,
>>>1) I am using OO version 1.1.3 as provided in SuSE Linux 9.2 for x86_64 
>>>(AMD).
>>>   
>>>
>>
>>I would reccomend to try OOo2.0.3, if the same problem is reproducible
>>there please submit a new issue to me. I am in doubt that there will be
>>resources to fix such a specific scenario in 1.1.x branch.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>>2) No, I did not disconnected the stick while OO was running.
>>>
>>>3) I must come clean on the following:
>>>The filesystem /media/uc is mounted on /dev/mapper/uc, device-mapped 
>>>with target dmcrypt to a udev created node /dev/uc which is a link to 
>>>the 'real' device /dev/sda1. Normally I wouldn't put documents on a 
>>>stick nor encrypt. Maybe the two together are a jump too far. I did try 
>>>the normal ls, mv, cp, chown, chmod etc. from a shell commandline and 
>>>all that worked fine.
>>>
>>>Will try on an unencrypted but devicemapped stick and revert.
>>>   
>>>
>>
>>Yes, simplification of the scenario would help to investigate the
>>problem. But, probably, as first step it would make sence to try
>>OOo2.0.3 version.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>>4) Do I understand correctly that both Save and SaveAs check whether a 
>>>file with the, implied or explicitly given, name already exists. If so, 
>>>that file is (1) copied into the backup directory set in Path 
>>>Preferences or (2) renamed in whatever directory it resides in ( 1, 2 or 
>>>neither? )
>>>It the write of the document fails, the pre-existing file is restored. 
>>>If the write succeeds the backup is deleted.
>>>This question because I am somewhat puzzled that the backup directory 
>>>never appears to contain any files.
>>>   
>>>
>>
>>Exactly, the OOo1.1.3 and OOo2.0.x tries to use the (1) way and if it
>>does not work it tries to create copy in the target folder ( kind of (2)
>>way with the difference that the copy operation instead of move is used
>>). There is an option in the Options menu that allows to preserve
>>backups on Save operation.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Mikhail.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Enno
>>>
>>>Mikhail Voitenko wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Enno,
>>>>
>>>>The described USBStick problem sounds very strange. Currently it is
>>>>difficult to imagine a case when the Save operation fails and the SaveAs
>>>>operation to the same name succeeds ( just because the SaveAs operation
>>>>would try to create a backup of the existing document as well, and in
>>>>the same way ). Could you please clarify some questions:
>>>>- on which version of the OOo the problem is reproducible?
>>>>- was the memory stick disconnected during the document editing?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Mikhail.
>>>>
>>>>Enno Fennema wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This is similar to the problem I raised also 13/9 in thread [users] 
>>>>>Write to USBstick - Could not create backup copy. Phil: Did you get the 
>>>>>Cannot create backup copy message?
>>>>>
>>>>>In that case a marginally easier solution may be to use only SaveAs but 
>>>>>with the same name as the old doc. That worked for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>Still, there is something weird. I thought it may be related to Uni* 
>>>>>copying across drives but renaming only on one drive. Would have to 
>>>>>consider the drive where the doc resides, where backups are made, where 
>>>>>program resides ???.  Apparently I can Save on most of my drives but NOT 
>>>>>on the USB stick.
>>>>>Permissions should be ok as I can read/write the stick as long as I only 
>>>>>use Load and SaveAs.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any ideas.
>>>>>Enno
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