On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:57 PM [GMT+1=CET], Adrian Try <[EMAIL 
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>> Please explain in detail how I get a paragraph whose initial capital
>> letter is larger than the other capital letters in the same paragraph
>> and also drops *below* the line it's on.
> 
> Hi Harold.
> 
> I've just been doing some fiddling with drop caps, and I have some
> suggestions. If you'd like more details, please ask.
> 
> Firstly, I would use paragraph styles for this job. Normally the
> paragraph with a drop cap would be the first paragraph after a
> heading. Whether it's Heading1, Heading2 etc would depend on the sort
> of document you are working on. Create a new paragraph style called
> Dropcaps (more details below). Then set up the "next style" field of
> the relevant heading style to be Dropcaps, and the "next style" field
> of Dropcaps to be your normal body text style (usually default or
> Text body). 
> 
> When creating the Dropcaps style, create it from your normal body text
> style (usually default or Text body) by right clicking and selecting
> New. Name the style Dropcaps (or whatever sounds good to you). Click
> on the Drop Caps tab, and set up the options the way you would like
> them. Normally you would just adjust the number of lines (the default
> is 5). There are other options there that you can experiment with
> later. 
> 
> Once you have set up your document this way, after you create a
> heading you should automatically get drop caps on the next line. If
> you have already typed your document, or would like drop caps in
> other places, you can simply apply the Dropcaps style manually to
> those paragraphs. 
> 
> One final issue: short paragraphs. It seems that the height of the
> drop cap is limited to the height of the paragraph. In other words,
> if you have defined your drop cap to be five lines, but it is in a
> paragraph that is only two lines high, your drop cap will be only two
> lines high. It would be good if this was not the case!
> 
> The only work around that I know of is to use soft returns
> (shift-Enter) rather than hard returns (Enter) at the end of a short
> initial paragraph. Writer will then consider both paragraphs being
> one, and the drop cap will achieve its correct size. I normally hate
> manual formatting like this, but since you only need it at the
> beginning of each chapter or section, and not in all cases, I hope
> that it is not too painful. 
> 
> I hope these steps and thoughts help.
> 
> Adrian
> 
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Adrian,

Thanks. Yes, Peter Hillier-Brook discovered that the dropped caps thing reacts 
strongly to the "depth" of the paragraph. Once that is clear the whole things 
falls into place. I personally think it's counter-intuitive; I'd expect a 
5-line dropped cap specification to force the paragraph to occupy at least 5 
lines. But the current behaviour has an internal logic so it's livable with.

Harold Fuchs
London, England

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