On Friday 03 November 2006 12:18 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm trying to sign a document. From the help file it says that I need a
> certificate from some vendors.
>
> Is this different with gpg? Can I use my own gpg signature instead?
> Thank you very much,

Reference pg 433.. of doc

NO a pgp key is not a cert it is a pair of keys you own.  You provide others 
your public key so they can communicate with them.   When you sign a document 
with a pgp key you are saying.   here you can check this against my public 
key to verify who I am.   Anyone knowing how to properly use pgp knows that 
you don't trust a key unless, 1) you know the person and have verified the 
key via their key fingerprint, or 2) their key is signed by others you trust 
saying they have verified the fingerprint.   In pgp it is very normal to see 
10+ signatures on keys.  With certificates you are saying ONE company signed 
this so its valid, and from a company who make money and has an interest to 
sell millions of certificates.  (I trust them NOT)

The cert people say,  you can trust this key because I have signed it.   The 
problem is it is simple to get a key from cert people that is fake.  They 
have a financial interest in making enough money to pay Microslop and in 
making a profit.  

The problem is 98% of the world of users doesn't know how to verify pgp and 
the circle of trust and key signing.  As they foolishly havn't learned its 
security.  As in asking the person who owns the key for their fingerprint.  

What you need is certificate, that in my oppinion is NOT trusted.  I suggest 
that you not use verisign as the pricing is rediculous..  check out CA-cert.  
The windows world doesn't recognize this worldwide organization as they 
refust to pay Microslop to say they are a valid company. 

The part that is broken in my opinion is the part that says.  "I know who this 
person is and they are who they say they are"  this is the statement verisign 
and the others are making to the world.  And the world foolishly goes and 
accepts it.  Banks are loosing millions every year because they just can't 
figure out if someone is who they say they are. 

In windows in order for a vendor (like verisign) to be recognized as a valid 
cert provider they must pay Microslop 75K to be listed and then 10k per year 
to keep their listing.  The only way to stop this is for everyone to stop 
using them and use other cert vendors.  I highly suggest CA-cert It costs 
nothing. Get a cert and start signing.   CA works on a circle of trust.  In 
order to be fully trusted you have to show proof of who you are to three 
people, or obtain 3 notorized documents.  

After you get one start at pg 433 in the current doc..

Windows email readers even strip off my pgp signatures.. 
and this is signed.  FRed

 

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