Dear Terry,

I must have skimmed through the set-up guide much too quickly, as I didn't
note any references to aliens (I concentrated my reading on passages that
seemed relevant to Ubuntu/Debian) there. Anyway, having been a
science-fiction aficionado from my earliest boyhood, I know what aliens are
! In any event, I did find the following passage in the guide :

The simplest way to install the OpenOffice.org package you've downloaded is
use the
command dpkg -i (short for dpkg install).
  1. First log on as root or from the GUI, open a root terminal.
  2. Type:
      dpkg -i -force-overwrite openoffice.org*.deb \
       desktop-integration/openoffice.org-debian-menus*.deb
      and openoffice.org will be installed. If you already had an older
version, dpkg will
      upgrade it rather than installing both versions at once.
  3. Install any language packs needed for OpenOffice.org.

As I wrote in reply to Javier's instructions, given my lack of experience
with both Ubuntu and OOo, I'm loathe to perform any bold experiments which
take me out of my (rather shallow) depth, but perhaps the above is the way
to go and could be used to download and install OOo 2.1 ? In any event,
thanks for your kind reply !...

Henri

2006/12/15, Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Have a look at OOo's Setup Guide for starters.  It may explain alien
sufficiently.  Otherwise, look in your distro's help resources (always
fun).

The distros have not mastered the art of making their operating systems
workable for software, so they mess around with software to make it work
without the necessary libraries on their operating systems.

While at it, some of them introduce their own quaint ideas into the
software, including new "undocumented features" (i.e. breakages) in the
process.  As I think I mentioned, the OOo forum is replete with
complaints from users of the Ubuntu and Debian versions of OpenOffice.
The Ubuntu forums are replete with complaints.

http://documentation.openoffice.org/setup_guide2/2.x/en/SETUP_GUIDE.pdf
http://documentation.openoffice.org/setup_guide2/2.x/en/SETUP_GUIDE_A4.pdf


M Henri Day wrote:
> It just goes to show, things aren't always what they seem to be ! I'm
> beginning to feel pretty 'alien' myself, when confronted with these
> difficulties ! Could I ask you, Jim, to explain in some detail for a
> 'noob'
> some myself, to what you were referring when you referred to 'setting up
> [the "official" version of OOo] with alien' ? If little green men from
> Mars
> or some as yet to us unknown Earth-like planet circling a distant star
> can
> help me with these download problems, I'd be delighted !...
>
> My greatest problem, along side of which OOo's sudden disappearance
> followed
> by resurrection in which the lost documents are easily recovered, is
> merely
> a minor annoyance, is that I've been unable to gain access to a means of
> writing passages in Chinese or Japanese in documents written mainly in
> European languages. I've installed all the SCIM-files in Ubuntu and
> made the
> appropriate adjustments in OOo, but the one thing I've hitherto been
> unable
> to do is to activate the settings so that I can insert a series of
> graphs (a
> book title, a quote, etc) into a sentence in say, English or French or
> Swedish. What do I have to do ? My standard keyboard setting is Swedish,
> which works rather well for most European languages (not so well for
> Danish
> or Norwegian, but that is an inter-Nordic dispute), and I have set
> simplified Chinese as the standard for so-called 'Asian' languages.
> But how
> can I change from the former to the latter, either between documents or
> within a document. I've read the help pages which tell me to use
> 'Control +
> space' or 'shift + space' to toggle back and forth between the two
> settings,
> but nothing happens ! This, indeed, was easier in Windows and Word,
where
> everything required could be accomplished with a few mouse clicks.
> Anybody
> feel like taking pity on me in my ignorance and providing me with
> step-by-step instructions to make things work ?...
>
> Henri
>
> 2006/12/14, jimw wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I Use Ubuntu as well, though I haven't switched to the new version
> just yet.
> I've always used the 'official' version of OOo, setting it up with
alien.
> The first few Ubuntu Openoffices did not include the thesaurus,but if
you
> wanted to go to the trouble, you could load the Ubuntu OpenOffice
> Thesaurus
> separately.
>
> That made me wonder what else they'd been messing around with, so I
> only use
> the official version now. That way, when I have a problem, I can get
help
> from the users group.
>
> JimW

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