Richard wrote:
On 12/21/06, Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 12/21/06, Russell Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Terry wrote:
>> > James Knott wrote:
>> >> Terry wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Does anyone know how and where to get a Linux tarball instead
of the
>> >>> rpms?
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Or Tarbell? ;-)
>> >>
>> >> http://www.s100-manuals.com/Harte-manuals/Tarbell/Tarbell Cassette
>> >> Interface.pdf
>> >>
>> >> Actually, I thought the download from OOo was a tarball.
>> >
>> > There was an outcry when OpenOffice moved from a universal
>> installer to
>> > the rpms which, as you say, are compressed into a tarball.
>> >
>> > The outcome of the issue filed was that the software itself
would be
>> > available for installation from a tarball.
>> >
>> > IOW, it is supposed to be possible to install simply by
>> uncompressing a
>> > tarball - in the same way that Mozilla products can be installed.
>> >
>> > This other tarball (not to be confused with whatever you are
talking
>> > about) does not contain RPMs; it contains the software files, ready
>> for
>> > action and rarin' to go.
>> >
>> > Well, it would do if it exists, which is the first question in
>> > question. :-\
>> >
>> > The second question is *where* is it?
>> >
>> >
>> Hi Terry
>>
>> If it's any help, on gentoo I use rpm2tgz (after unpacking the
download
>> tarball) and it proceeds to put everything where it belongs in /opt/
>>
>> I realise that is not a direct answer to your inititial question.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Russell
Richard wrote:
> To the best of my knowledge they decided that the "native format" for
> Linux is rpm.
> So that's all that's available, except for Pavel Janik's site. But the
> debs won't install for me on Debian Sid. Must be something personal
> with my installation.
>
> I'll keep trying. Going to look for the rpm2tgz. Maybe that will help.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard.
Yes, the decision was made to use RPMs and that lead to this issue:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102
The establishment dug its toes in but indicated that a tarball
installation would be possible.
It may be that we have to create the tarball ourselves. The official
response is as incoherent as usual:
[quote]
Beginning in src680 m188 it is very easy to create installation sets as
tar.gz (non-Windows) and zip (Windows). Additionally it is possible to
create already installed products in the solver of instsetoo_native. You
only have to use the environment variable PKGFORMAT, that from now on
additionally supports "archive"
and "installed". Or you make a call like
dmake openoffice_en-US PKGFORMAT=archive
in the shell, in which you create installation sets.
[/quote]
That is supposed to make sense! :-(
Later, the same message suggests that a tarball is available for
extraction as *ready-to-use* software:
[quote]
A problem is, that this new product do not contain any system
integration. But
therefore it is now possible to use something like:
1. download openoffice.tar.gz
2. tar xvzf openoffice.tar.gz
3. cd openoffice
4. ./soffice
[unquote]
Pavel Janik's site seemed the most likely source but I do not see such
tarballs there.
Rpm2tgz is not available for all distributions. It is, I understand, a
script, so it should be fairly portable.
There is also an unrpm script: http://marklesh.com:8000/UnRPMOpenOffice
But, unless the official responses on that issue mean something else,
there should be *ready-to-use* software already available in tarball
form.
> That's the reason that since OOo2, I just wait until it shows up in
> the Debian repository.
> It used to work with alien but even that fails now.
>
> I'm willing to test if someone has a place to put up a real tgz
> version, like the old ones.
>
> Richard.
I've rearranged the postings because yours were top and the others bottom.
At least some developer builds are in tarball form and I believe these
were the builds to which we were to have some access. At one stage I
managed to track them down but now I can only find the build for the
chart project:
http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/cws/upload/chart2/mst10/
There is this page: http://download.openoffice.org/680/index.html
But I think you need to know the secret handshake to get it to work. :'(
Perhaps we should be supporting an open open source project.
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