TerryJ wrote:
> 
> noop-3 wrote:
>> 
>> I'm sure that somewhere in the gmane.com.openoffice.questions threads
>> there is information regarding the lack of desktop icons for OOo;
>> unfortunately the OOo gmane articles expire after 30 days so I can't
>> find an answer...
>> 
> 
> You can still search the official archive at
> http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=users

Thanks, I'd forgotten that option.

> 
> 
> 
>> Why is it that after all of the complaints/suggestions that OOo 2.1
>> can't automatically install (or offer the option of) desktop icons for
>> the OS that it is installed on?
>> 
>> I fail to understand just what is so difficult about installing OOo
>> icons on the desktop during installation. Can someone please explain
>> this to me?  For every intallation of OOo that I do, I have to spend
>> extra time dragging & dropping icons onto the desktop so that my user's
>> can find OOo. Over time, this becomes a considerable PITA, particularly
>> when I have old 2.0 icons on the desktop and forget to delete and change
>> to 2.1.; left a customer site once, forgot to change the icons, customer
>> called back and said the desktops shortcuts weren't valid (they weren't)
>> and I had to drive all the way back just to change the d#mn things!
>> 
>> Please figure out a way to include desktop icons in 2.2.
>> 
> 
> I believe you need to file an issue.
> 
> Are you referring to installation on Linux?  If so, the icons are provided
> in the desktop integration rpm.  I ran one recently just to get the icons. 
> Unfortunately, it also duplicated the application directory!
> 
> If you are installing icons regularly, can you write / obtain a script to
> install them?  Surely, it would not be beyond the capacity of OpenOffice to
> provide such a script.  Then again, many things do seem to be beyond the
> organisation's capacity.

I generally have no problem with the linux installations... they
typically include the desktop script code for adding to the Gnome menu
etc. Besides, most of my linux users don't expect desktop icons
following an installation. So, that hasn't been a big issue (for me).

However the majority (99.9%) of my customers are Windows users, and for
each I need to spend the extra time to create a set of desktop shortcut
icons similar to what they are accustomed to with MS Office. Even after
I've gone to the trouble of creating the desktop shortcuts w/OOo icons,
when I upgrade them from say a 2.0 to a 2.1 I have to remember to delete
*all* of the old ones and recreate new ones to for the upgraded version.

Any scan of posts regarding OOo installation by Windows here or
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=users etc will
always turn up posts of: "how do I start OOo" etc. This is because those
users expect the installation program to install, or offer to install,
desktop shortcut icons on the desktop. Let's face it, even the simplest
of Windows programs typically include installing a desktop shortcut/icon
on the desktop after the program is finished. Furthermore, when the
program is updated, the desktop icons are updated & when the program is
deleted, the desktop icons are deleted.

I don't think an issue needs to be filed (refiled) as this has been an
ongoing OOo problem for a long time. A read of any new user questons
will turn up the problem. A sample is:
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=users&msgNo=135075

Now try to upgrade multiple users (some or many that you need to go on
site to do the upgrade) and imagine the time spent during each
install/upgrade that is required simply to: 1) put the icons on the
desktop, 2) delete old icons (all meaning desktop shortcut icons), put
new icons on the desktop & then test each one to make sure that they
work. I couldn't imagine being a school or corporate admin and trying to
update hundreds (or more) of workstations with OOo and having to address
each user's desktop shortcut/icon issues.

It just seems to me that OOo can figure out a way to perform this simple
task on installation and upgrade (at least for Windows sytems). To do so
will help new users, and will certainly lighten the load of sys admins
and folks like me that insist that their customers user OOo instead of
MS Office.


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