Harold Fuchs wrote:
On Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:47 PM [GMT+1=CET],
Stephanie Boulee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How do you achieve this?  I can find the properties for the page but
not the frame.
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1. Click on the border of the frame. Careful clicking brings up 8 green squares (I think they are called "handles") around the perimeter of the frame and the cursor changes to a cross with an outward pointing arrowhead at the end of each arm.

2. Right click in the frame and select Anchor and then To Character. Note that in what follows, when I say "right click in the frame" I mean that you must do it when the cursor is in its cross/arrowhead form; if it isn't, (left) click the border of the frame again to bring up the handles and correct cursor shape.

3. Right click in the frame and select Wrap and then In Background.

4. You can now move the frame over the text that's already there without obscuring it. Do this by dragging the frame while the cursor is still in its cross/arrowhead form. If it's not *still* in that form, click the border again to make it so.

5. Right click the frame again and choose Borders and then None. The *black* border will disappear but a pale grey one will remain. This is to allow you to see the frame on the screen; it will *not* be printed.

Harold Fuchs
London, England
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Thanks again for taking time to help me learn this. I tried your suggestions and what it achieved was to make my frame, and the text held within it, do disappear behind my picture. I may be trying to do the impossible. I'm attempting to place a frame containing text on top of a picture without the white background of the frame obscuring the picture. I found that I could actually embed my picture directly into my frame. I could then type over it. I was also able to achieve the same effect by placing a regular text box on top of the original picture. The thing I guess that I'm wishing for would be a hybrid between a frame and a text box. I like that I can embed a picture into a frame and add text, but I also like the ability to use gradients (or even just have the area menu) and have typing over a picture like you can with text boxes. Say for example that I have a large picture about the size of half the page and I want to add some text and a small picture related to each other over that. Now, I could add a small text box and a picture separately but then I may spend while orienting them to each other over the large picture only to decide later that I want to move them both later. I could go through the same process and take more time (being a perfectionist and all), but if they could both be within a frame I just move the frame. That is, if the frame wouldn't leave a big white rectangle in the middle of my large picture in the background. Which is what I was trying to ask about. Making the 'white' background be a 'clear' background.

Okay, I have been fiddling with this as I was typing this email, and found a stupidly simple way to solve my problem. I changed the background of my frame from "no fill" to a white fill with transparency of 100%. Now I'm slapping my forehead going, "duh."

I would still like a way to use the gradients, hatching (okay, the whole area and line windows) that are available with text boxes with frames as well. That would be cool in a future release. Perhaps a "text box frame" that would be a hybrid. I hope nobody minds my ramblings, but maybe somebody somewhere could learn from it someday.

-Stephanie

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