well at least James McKenzie has got a name! - Mr Glgxg! (not very open are you?)
Francesca Johnson

From: NoOp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [users] [OT] Response to James McKenzie - was: Re: Bug found in OOo 2.1
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:47:19 -0800

On 02/21/2007 08:31 PM, James Mckenzie wrote:
> NoOp:
>
> Not all OpenOffice.org users choose to join or even participate in this list. > Thus this meets the technical definition of volunteer, one who gives freely > of his or her time to help others. I do so and so do you, at least I'm under
> that impression.  No one pays me to be here (at least not that I'm aware
> of) although it can and does lead to paying employment by other companies
> or even governments.  I know of no one on this list that is paid by
> OpenOffice.org nor its main sponsor, Sun Microsystems, that are paid to
> provide user support through this list. Do you have a counter argument to these > statements. I would gladly like to read it. And some of the folks who are > here do not use OpenOffice.org but rather derivatives, such as BROffice or
> NeoOffice.
> I do apologize to the list for this subject remaining here, but I feel that
> appropriate wording of the README is paramount so that we can properly
> describe who we are and what our function is within this community of
> users.
>
> James McKenzie

James, cool your jets.

I think that everyone that participates here (lurking or active)
appreciate every contribution (right/wrong/indifferent) by the
list/group "subscribers/contributors".

My note was "volunteer staffed"; "staffed" being the key. It did not
mention anyone being payed, it simply stated: "is simply comprised of
other OOo users... is that not correct?" So, yes the question still
stands: "is there actually a "volunteer staff" that actually service
this list/group?".

Are you a "staff" member of OOo? I'm not being confrontational, I'm just
asking a plain and simple question.

Haven't a clue as to your comments regarding the following:

> although it can and does lead to paying employment by other companies
> or even governments.

What the heck does that mean, and what does it have to do with my
question/comments?

or

> I do apologize to the list for this subject remaining here, but I feel that
> appropriate wording of the README is paramount so that we can properly
> describe who we are and what our function is within this community of
> users.

No clue what that is about either. WTF is the "appropriate wording of
the README"? I can't say that I've *ever* seen, read, or evaluated a
"README" before your mention of it. Just went and looked at the "README"
file in my installation directory... it's dated 30 November 2006 and the
contents are considerably out of date for the 2.1 install that I have.
Is this the "README" that you are referring to? If so, perhaps it would
be better to simply update and add helpful comments to the OOo
installation & download page so that folks don't always wander in here
and try to figure out how to open Calc from their new Mac install, or
Window users know how to add OOo icons to their desktop etc.

If, on the otherhand, you (and perhaps others) are indeed OOo volunteer
"staff" I'll simply stop posting my comments/advise and instead just
direct questions to the "staff" instead.

As I said; cool your jets. There was no insult or ill harm meant in my
comments/question. It was simply a question - either answer it, or
ignore it, but don't come back with "Do you have a counter argument to
these statements. I would gladly like to read it" nonsense. I also have
better things to do, and will gladly just killfile you if that is your
ongoing attitude.



>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: NoOp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Feb 21, 2007 10:37 PM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: [users]  Re: Bug found in OOo 2.1
>>
>>On 02/21/2007 06:47 PM, James Mckenzie wrote:
>>
>>> As I stated earlier, this is a volunteer staffed mailing list, and it is primarily in
>>
>>I was unaware that this is a "volunteer staffed" mailing list. As far as
>>I know this mailing list (and it's counterpart nntp/gmane news group
>>feed) is simply comprised of other OOo users... is that not correct? Or,
>>is there actually a "volunteer staff" that actually service this list/group?
>>

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