On 15 Apr 2007, at 22:02, Ted wrote:

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So, does that mean that if I don't 1st uninstall 2.1, that I'll have both 2.1 and 2.2 installed on my computer and can choose to run either of those at any given time? Maybe even run both at the same time?

This I'm not sure about. In a sense there's nothing to lose. If you end up with both at least you can check that the new version works before uninstalling the old one.
   Oh, okay.
I thought that if running 2 versions of the same time of any software might lead to conflict problems. Maybe 2 versions each trying to use some of the same files at same time. Also, I wondered if installing 2.2 might just use some of 2.1's files instead of installing their own copy of those files, and then when uninstalling 2.1, it might take those files, leaving 2.2 incomplete/crippled.
   But, if you say nothing to lose, then I'll try it.





You say it will not install twice, BUT, in my Add/Remove Programs, I see these THREE Java related programs:
           J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 11
           J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 7
           Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 1
What does all that mean? Seems like too much Java (thus bloated or gunked up computer, or scenario for possible conflicts). Am I right about this? Should I uninstall some of them, or is it right/good to have all 3 of those installed?
   Should I download the Java with OpenOffice 2.2?

I would remove all of those Java's that you have there... they are the versions for software developers rather than home users. See <http://java.com/en/download/faq/java_diff.xml>
So uninstall them and then install OpenOffice with Java.
But, I wouldn't have those versions if some software I installed didn't call for them. If I go deleting them, as you suggest, might that leave something on my computer crippled when it goes looking to employ the version(s) I removed?

If you do find a program is crippled by removing these, they can all be found on Java.com but as the web-site says they are for software development. I would suspect that at some point you have installed them because some program, such as openoffice has done, has led you to believe you need them when really it is the JRE package you need.



Are you calling the "installation files" that which I downloaded, or that which the download provides through unpacking?

I see how this is a little confusing. After the installation you may delete both the downloaded file <OOo_2.2.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe (with Java included)> and the installation (unpacked) files. I believe the reason that this is not included explicitly in the instructions is that the FAQs assume a working knowledge of Windows and its terminology.
Actually, I've been using Windows since 1991 and am pretty familiar with its terminology, having installed dozens and dozens of apps over the years - BUT, I've don't remember ever encountering "unpacking" until OpenOffice install.

I have noticed few questions regarding this on the list, but I sometimes wonder if there are many people out there with the Installation files sitting on their desktop...
   I'd bet big money on "Yes, there are".


You know what would be great? If there were comprehensive instructions for everything, covering all the if/then scenarios, telling the exact steps along the way, and telling why one would want option a or option b, and what the pros and cons to the choices would be (essentially a good thorough flow chart). I could help with that if anyone ever wanted to do it.
One of the problems with creating such a guide is that there are almost an infinite number of things that can go wrong for windows, same again for linux, same again for mac... etc etc
I totally understand that. The instrux that already exist, though, leaves out some of the basic forks in the road of installing - far from approaching the almost infinite number of things that can go wrong.

But one thing that I keep finding as I trawl the net for help and I think applies in this case too is there is no acknowledgement that things might even go wrong. ie it doesn't say 'at this point 'x' should happen, if not try this page or this list etc etc'.




I hope this helps. Please reply to the list rather than me directly; there are plenty more knowledgeable people than me who can also answer your questions.
Understood. On that note, don't worry about answering my questions above - I'll find "the list" and ask there, and make my way.

Just to clarify when I mean the 'list' I mean sending an e-mail not to my address but to the [email protected] address, which I along with others shall receive. The more people helping you the better :)


Thanks again!
Ted
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