Disclaimer:  I am not a legal professional!  The "reverse engineering"
that is prohibited in most if not all EULAs has often NOT been upheld in
court.  There are circumstances where reverse engineering is considered
to be an infringement and other circumstances where reverse engineering
has been held to NOT be an infringement.  With respect to the programs
output, the matter is even less "cut and dried" since the essential
content and even the manner of its expression is not automatically
"owned" by the software maker.

Bill Leach
RWMC Publications
526-4267
Pager 4165

-----Original Message-----
From: Ayaz Hussain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Is opening/saving closed-sourced file formats not license
infringement?


Hi,

I was wondering about the nature of how some open sourced programs like
OpenOffice are able to open and save to file formats used on other
platforms such the Microsoft Word .doc file format. If reverse
engineering is not allowed in the license agreement for Microsoft
products and the only way to know how the .doc format works is through
reverse engineering to enable programs like OpenOffice to be able to
handle the files, then is it not license infringement? After all the
product is closed-source for a reason...even if it is "clean reverse
engineering", that becomes irrelevant, no?

I don't ask this to speak ill of OpenOffice. I like it and use it, but I
want to know that it is entirely legitimate so that I am not a party to
any sort of copyright infringement practices. 

All I know is that the proprietary formats like .doc are not open to
outsiders, and hence for programs like OpenOffice to be able to
manipulate such files means that knowledge could only have been gained
though reverse engineering, because surely Microsoft didn't willingly
share it with us...

Thanks.



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