Ken Burnside wrote:

> 1) The list does not give a lot of step by step instructions on how
> you sign up, or how it's being distributed or archived.

The website makes it very clear that messages are publicly
archived.

> 2) The majority of mail list users come from advertising supported
> environments, like Yahoo Groups or Google Groups, where that
> information is protected *by default*.

The Yahoo default is for a list to be "publicly readable".

> 3) The failure of this list to say "Hi, this is NOT LIKE Yahoo Groups,
> and anything you post will be archived in public" is an actual flaw in

So should the message state how it differs from, and is
similar to Majordomo, Listserv, Mailman, Postman, Topica,
MSN, etc as well? Those products are used as much, if not
more than yahoogroups.

> 4) While telling Aricka that, yes, putting all her personal contact
> information out there is unwise, implying that she should have known
> better, as you do, strongly, is making unwarranted assumptions about
> what kind of computing background she has. 

It doesn't make any assumption about her computing
background. This is a point that has continually been made
by people both within, and without the computer security
industry since the days of _The Source_. These aren't things
that are kept to the back pages of 2600, or PHREAK.  You can
find them in the Wall Street Journal, US News, and similar
publications.

xan

jonathon

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