NoOp wrote:
On 08/13/2007 04:20 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
On 13/08/07, jonathon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Freud Babes wrote:
Könnte ich, bitte. downloaden und benützen mit Vista nur "Writer" in
Deutsch,
( jedoch manchmal auch in Englisch und Spanisch) ?
Windows Vista Ultimate Edition: Ja
Windows Vista Enterprise Edition: Ja
Alle weiteren Versionen: Nein.
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For whoever wanted to know why i described Vista crippled, this is a
shining example of why it is defective by design.
xan
jonathon
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I'm not too sure of my ground here so perhaps someone could help me (and the
OP) if I get things wrong ...
First, a definition: I'm going to use the term User Interface Language (UIL)
to mean the language in which menus, help text and so on are displayed. If
this is not the correct definition, please someone let me know what is the
correct meaning.
Given that definition, it seems to me that the UIL for Windows (a) has very
little to do with the UIL for OO, which is handled by OO's language packs
and (b) has nothing at all to do with the language of one's documents.
Also using that definition, it seems to me that most people are happy to
work with a single UIL provided they can create documents in different
languages with the implied correct spell and/or grammar checking
functionality. In the context of OO, writing and checking documents in
different languages is nothing at all to do with the UIL and is a question
of downloading and installing the correct dictionaries and of possibly
creating appropriate styles.
I freely admit there will be many small groups of users e.g couples of
different nationalities of a single computer where different users would
prefer to work with different UILs and that not having that facility in the
"home" versions of Vista is a shortcoming. But I still don't see how it
impacts on OO.
It also seems to me that telling the OP of this thread that he won't be able
to use different languages for his documents on some versions of Windows is
misleading to say the least. Or ????
Just out of curiosity, which versions of Linux can I install that support
multiple UILs?
I think that jonathan is correct on this issue. Of course someone from
Germany etc., that is running Vista will need to verify.
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/vista/Vista_Language_Support.mspx
If you enter German here the result will show:
<quote>
* LP (Language Pack) — LP languages can be added as an additional User
Interface (UI) language to any localized version of Windows Vista
Enterprise or Ultimate.
** LIP (Language Interface Pack) — LIP languages can only be added to
its primary language version of Vista (i.e. Catalan can be installed on
a Spanish version of Vista, but not on a Russian version).
</quote>
Additional information is here:
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/oslocversion.mspx
and here
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/oslocversion.mspx#winVistaLIP
But this last seems confusing as it states:
<quote>
All Windows Vista LIPs can be installed on top of Windows Vista Home
Premium, Windows Vista Ultimate,Windows Vista Business and Windows Vista
Enterprise
</quote>
If would be nice if the Gullfoss/Sun folks could clarify this issue once
and for all and a note in the OOo system requirements be made.
I for one don't use Windows anymore, and my latest version on the
dualboot test machine is WindowsXPPro, so I can't provide any further
information.
That said; It would be nice if johnathan could perhaps tone down and/or
correct his standard reponse re Vista from:
The big issue is how crippled is the version of Windows Vista that you
are using.
If you use version of Windows Vista other than:
* Windows Vista Ultimate Limited Edition;
* Windows Vista Ultimate Edition;
* Windows Vista Enterprise Edition;
your version of Windows Vista is crippled. This will have a negative
impact on the functionality of OOo. This is because Windows Vista is
Defective by Design.
to something along the lines of:
You can indeed use OpenOffice with Windows Vista. However, please be
aware that the various versions of Vista limit your ability to do the
following with OpenOffice:
- list *documented* issues with the various versions of Vista
Note that this an Microsoft Operating System issue rather than an
OpenOffice issue. These same issues will also occur when using Microsoft
Office. Reference links are located here:
- provide MS links
OpenOffice is available in over 30 languages and is fully functional in
Windows (98, 2000, XP and Vista), Linux, Solaris, and MAC. Please see:
http://native-lang.openoffice.org/ and/or
http://projects.openoffice.org/native-lang.html for a list of OpenOffice
native language projects.
and leave out the "your version of Windows Vista is crippled" bit.
Johnathan, IMO it does OOo no good at all when you send a negative
comment such as this to new/prospective users of OOo. Many, if not all,
of these queries are coming from standard home type users that are just
realizing that their MS Office trials have run out, their pirated from
work older MS Office copies no longer work, etc., etc. *Please* leave
out the FUD/personal's and just reply with the facts if you must.
Our (there is an 'our' here) goal as OOo users is to encourage and
help other folks use OOo. It is not to lambast any operating system or
other software in the process.
Gary
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