On 11/04/2007 05:15 PM, Richard Detwiler wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 11/04/2007 07:59 AM, jonathon wrote:
>>   
>>>
>>> Possibly easier solution
>>>
>>> * Download the Ubuntu 7.04 Live CD.
>>> * Burn to disk.
>>> * Restart your system, with the LiveCD in the CD slot, so that it boots up.
>>> * Open OOo on the Live CD.
>>> * Open the individual Works documents in OOo.
>>> * Save documents to a USB drive in ODF format
>>> * Remove CD from the CD Drive
>>> * Reboot the system
>>> * Restart Windows
>>>
>>> xan
>>>
>>> jonathon
>>>     
>>
>> Are you serious? Here is a person that appears to know little or nothing
>> about computers and you are suggesting that they magically switch to
>> linux? BTW: 7.10 is the latest release, and LiveCD *doesn't* work on
>> many older systems, just booting the LiveCD is like watching the grass
>> grow in Nebraska in December.
>>   
> 
> Have to voice a strong agreement with that last statement! Over the 
> weekend, I decided to give Linux a shot, and tried making the Ubuntu CD 
> as per instructions (which worked well). Then I booted my computer from 
> the CD, and it was so incredibly slow that a number of times I thought 
> that something major must have gone wrong. When I read this, I couldn't 
> believe that this was being proposed as a "possibly easier solution". 
> Talk about a recipe for frustration!
> 
> Needless to say, my attempt to explore Linux by booting from a CD only 
> lasted long enough for me to regain control over Linux (around 20 
> minutes I believe) so I could shut it down! I'm not saying that Linux 
> isn't a good OS -- only that booting from a CD on my system only led to 
> frustration, and was apparently not a good example of what Linux is like 
> (at least I hope it wasn't).

Ubuntu has had a problem with the live CD since the Dapper days and I've
long tossed their LiveCD's.

If you just want to play around with linux  & test I highly recommend
that you try the Knoppix CD (http://www.knoppix.org/ & click on your
language flag - I use it as a backup if all things linux fails). It will
load quickly on just about any old system around. It's interface/desktop
is KDE so it a little windows/funky, some like it, I prefer Gnome. You
can also try PCLinuxOS, I've heard that does well (haven't tried it).

However Ubuntu is an excellent linux distro with global support so I
really do recommend that once you seriously wish to give linux a try
that you give Ubuntu a shot... just use the alternate CD instead. You
have my email address, so drop me a line off list & I'll be happy to
help walk you through it. I'm sure that others here that run Suse,
Mephis etc., would be happy to do the same.

But my point to jonathon was that it is simply nuts to just send someone
off to linux because they experience a problem with OOo, and worse if
they are unfamiliar with installing OS's. Ever try to do a Windows ME
upgrade to Win2KP or WinXP...

Moving to linux takes a conscious effort, and the switch is not as easy
as 123. Zealots (not referring specifically to jonathon here) that
simply propose that one install linux and/or switch to linux do harm to
the move to linux in the end. The poor unsuspecting user trys the
switch, trashes their comfortable windows install, and blames linux
forever.
  Of course the same thing would happen if they were to attempt a
significant OS install, or major upgrade on their own from Windwos, but
then they'd just assume it's ok & then go and buy another newer PC with
the newer version on it. Note: I jealous when I see trouble reports that
some grandma can't get Vist working with xyz... especially when I see
what it takes in hardware just to run that OS.

Anyway, if you need help w/linux let me know and I'll be happy to help
if I can.

Gary

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