Brian Barker wrote:
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Note that you can control the margins and so on of the section independently of those of the rest of the page.

I have not been very successful at this. By fiddling I eventually get what I want but it does not seem like an orderly process.

Thanks Brian, although I found it confusing that the "insert" was grayed out if I attempted to format before inserting. The other difficulty was in getting the two columns the same width. It seemed as though it kept remembering the width of the prior section. Eventually I got it though.

Another question. Is there a "clear formatting/style" command so I can remove the old formatting/style before imposing a new one? Sometimes it seems to keep elements of the old, like point size, even though you have modified the style.

o I'm not sure how you managed to get the entire Insert menu greyed out: I can't reproduce that, in fact. (I'm using 2.3.0, but I doubt that is relevant.)

No, it is not the Insert item in the menu, but rather the "Insert" button on the dialog box that pops up if I go from the menu Insert > Section if I attempt to set any parameters before inserting. Once inserted the section can have parameters set, but not at the same time as the insertion of the section.

o You can make the two columns of a section have the same width by choosing the AutoWidth option under "Width and spacing" on the Columns tab of the Insert Section dialogue. Indeed, this appears to be the default setting.

What happens is if I attempt to put a space between the columns then the two columns won't stick at the size I type in for each column. It seems to remember some width or margin setting and won't let me change it except by activating the section and sliding the left and right margins in the ruler bar. I guessed the position for the center location and spacing by sliding and then was able to set it in the text box on the dialog and keep the columns even.

o If you apply a paragraph style but some aspects of formatting remain, they must have been imposed at character level, I think. To remove this, select the relevant material and go to Format | Default Formatting (or right-click | Default Formatting or Ctrl+Shift+Space).

Alas, this is easier in W$%^ 2K, where there is a "Clear Formatting" function that is easy and intuitive to use. There are a couple of other things that are easier in W$%^ but not many. Since I have to deliver in W$%^ for the most part I wind up going back and forth via .rtf.

The part of OO that I don't get at all is Impress. PPT seems to work fairly easy but when I try to do similar things in Impress, like layered text over graphics or logos, not much luck.

Another minor pain is that in CALC I can't format each label on a pie chart. It's all or nothing. Yes, I can place text boxes but when one has to do ten or more, yikes. In W$%^ each label is individually editable and placeable to make some white text, some bold and some italic. I can't figure out how to do this as easily, if at all, in OO.

I trust this helps.

Yes it does.

Thanks,

Allen

(BTW, I like it that the list adds "Nonmame" when quoting me. In the over twenty years I've used BBSes (Do you remember 120 bps phone cradle modem couplers with a Trash80? - Maybe was a TRSIIID, don't recall exactly what went with what. I know my old 9 pin Epson finally died last year and my first 8088 is still running with a 10 Meg Mountain Drive turning out time code for an old audio editing system.) Fidonet at, wow!, 300 bps, and then into full swing TCP/IP at 1200 bps with Archie, Veronica, Gopher and text by e-mail request before FTP took over, I've only ever used my first name in most postings. This is the first time that automagically I have a last name I don't type.)

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