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Am 2008-03-16 14:55:03, schrieb Larry Gusaas: > On 2008/03/16 11:06 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: > >The *only* way to tell if a question comes from an unsubscribed user > >is to examine the mail headers. There will always be at least one > >"Delivered-To: " header. If there is such a header saying > >"Delivered-To: moderator for [email protected]" then the user is > >*not* subscribed (messages from unsubscribed users go via the > >moderator). If you want your reply to be seen by the unsubscribed user > >then you must include the user's e-mail address in the to: or cc: list > >of the reply. > > Why should I have to waste time searching the headers for this information? ...and of course, why should I risk to get backscatters from mailservers since some of those stupid users use INVALID email addresses. > >Some mail programs - Thunderbird is a notable example - let you filter > >on the content of the "Delivered-To:" headers. My filter simply causes > >all such messages to be highlighted, in my Inbox, in red so that I can > >easily see which ones need this special attention. Other programs, > >like Outlook Express, let you view the headers but not to filter on > >them. Less convenient but still possible. Other programs may not even > >let you view the headers in which case I'd recommend switching ... > > Can't search for "Delivered-To:" in Thunderbird newsgroup reader. I get > these messages through Gmane. I AM NO going to switch reader to > accommodate the rididulous policy to this list nor am I, considering the > high volume on this list going to switch back to emails. I am using mutt and have added to my: ----[ '~/.mutt/colors_ooo' ]-------------------------------------------- color index red default '~h "^Delivered-To: moderator for [email protected]"' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ and now two third of the mailbox is red. > >Please, if you are going to answer newbie questions, don't waste your > >own time shouting into a gale. It also sort of acts as a disservice to > >the user, and belittles our reputation and that of openoffice.org, > >because many/most of us, seeing that a question has *apparently* been > >replied to, will not bother to send our own reply. In such cases the > >newbie's question never gets answered even though it looks, > >superficially, as if it has been. > > It is the policy of allowing unsubscribed posters that causes this. If > this policy continues, they should add the email address of the > unsubscribed poster to the "Reply-To:" header so they automatically get > a response. No, do not do this. The right thing should be: Mailfollowup-To: <user_mail>, [email protected] Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ##################### Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/9351947 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)
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