From: Twayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 7:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Re: Re: telephone #

> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Twayne wrote:
>
>>  IMO OOo is indeed akin to "public domain" in many aspects of the 
>> license and protection afforded to it.
>
> GNU LGPL has a clearly defined set of rights and obligations
> associated with it.   Violation of those rights is both a breach of
> license and a breach of copyright law.
>
> Public Domain has no rights or obligations associated with it.  As 
> such, there is no way to violate it.
>
> By conflating the two, you are impugning upon the moral rights of the 
> GNU LGPL creator, and as such violating copyright law.
<snip>
> jonathon

>You do of course see the comedic quality of your response, don't you?
I have no idea who 
>you are, who you think you are, or even who you really are, nor do I
care, but come on, your 
>pompousity is only outdone by your attempts to redirect comments into
areas that were and 
>are foreign to the post from the beginning.  That's one of the oldest
troller tricks in the 
>books.  Your educational abilities leave a LOT to be desired and
indicate a rather myopic 
>view of the world around you.
>   I don't mean to be as confrontational as you are likely taking it,
but you can show off 
>your knowledge all you want and quote all the rules & regs you want,
but a response such as 
>this one is not going to sway me in the least.  I consider myself
pretty open minded and 
>open to new information but all you've done is spout what you want to
convey to others about 
>what you know, rather than any serious response to anything.  I just
can't give anything 
>like that any kind of credibility.
>   So if you're looking for me to "debate" you point by point, forget
it.  I only let 
>trollers suck me in just long enough to piss them off as a rule and
then I forget about 
>them.  I reiterate, I said what I mean, and I meant what I said.  If
that bugs you, then so 
>be it.
>   And that said, there is no further point to further communications
with you.  Your 
>comments are pointless and completely off the mark w/r to helping the
OP and in fact 
>completely disregard the OP, the ONLY person you should be concerned
with here, and then 
>only from a useful information standpoint.
>
>I've said all I have to say to you; from here on I'll not be bothering
with your tripe.  
>Enjoy and flame at will.
>
>Love yourself lots,
>
>Twayne 

Twayne,
Please do not be confrontational.  Neither Jonathon nor I were trying to
attack you or degrade you.

While neither Sun Microsystem nor Open Office Org are responsible for
what user post here, most people expect to receive accurate information
from this forum---even if the information is not related to the question
asked.

I suspect that you have not had much contact with FLOSS programmers.
For most FLOSS programmers the nature of the license is very
significant.  The Free Software Foundation has fought for more than two
decades to get the world and especially the legal community to take
FLOSS and FLOSS licenses seriously.  The Debian organization's "Social
Contract" is a very serious effort to further define what FLOSS is.

Many developers have left projects because they were NOT happy with
certain provision of the license that was being used.

While you may consider it to be trivial or feel that a little
miss-information is harmless, there are a whole lot of people that don't
agree with you and even more important is that the group includes most
of the developers that create software such as open office.

There is no need for any "debate" here.  You provided incorrect
information in answer to question asked.  At least two of us... Pretty
much assuming that you knew FLOSS was not public domain, tried to
correct the misrepresentation of FLOSS that you provided.  While I can't
speak for Jonathan, I suspect that he assumed no malice or intent to
mislead on your part.  I know that I certainly did not think that you
were intending ignore or suggest to others that they ignore a FLOSS
license.

I am saddened by your tone with Jonathan particularly because Jonathan
is a significant contributor to this forum and is NOT known to hostile
to anyone.

bill

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