Douglas Garstang wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tavis P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:33 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Devel] RE: [Users] OpenSER - one year old
>>
>>
>> Douglas Garstang wrote:
>>     
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Tavis P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:04 PM
>>>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Devel] RE: [Users] OpenSER - one year old
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Juha Heinanen wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Douglas Garstang writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>  > My comments are constructive. I've constructively 
>>>>>           
>> stated several
>>     
>>>>>  > times that the documentation is very bad. Each time I've 
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> made this
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>  > constructive comment, I've been attacked. In my previous 
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> post, I made
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>  > another constructive comment. I said that maybe the reason the
>>>>>  > documentation is so bad is that the project isn't that old.
>>>>>
>>>>> rather that complaining, learn to read the relevant pieces 
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> of code and
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> write better documentation.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- juha
>>>>>
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>>>> I find it interesting that you would characterize your 
>>>>         
>> statements as
>>     
>>>> "constructive" and the responses you've received as "attacks"
>>>>
>>>> I believe this may be one of the central issues
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Why do you consider my opinion that the documentation is 
>>>       
>> bad, and that it should be maintained by the developers interesting?
>>     
>>>   
>>>       
>> Its not your opinion on the documentation that i find interesting, its
>> how you characterize your dislike for the documentation (and repeated
>> expression of it)
>>
>>
>> In my opinion, if you are able to use an application you are able to
>> document how you use it. 
>> I am not a C developer however i have contributed to the 
>> documentation,
>> and i believe it is with this type of action that Open Source
>> communities become strong (contribution). 
>> Having someone constantly express what they don't like about 
>> the project
>> yet do little else to effect change in it serves no positive or
>> productive purpose
>>
>> OpenSER is an excellent application and i am proud to be a part of its
>> community.  A community that responds to impatience and contempt with
>> patience and wisdom
>> Please help us keep this community healthy because in the end it
>> benefits us all (in more ways that i can count)
>>
>> Demanding that others solve perceived issues is generally not a good
>> approach (unless you are dealing with a commercial entity and has a
>> professional responsibility to you)
>>     
>
> Sorry, but I disagree with you. I'm fed up with relying on documentation 
> that's badly written or wrong, because the person who wrote it made 
> assumptions about what they thought they knew... because they in turn relied 
> upon someone else who had made the same mistakes. The reason the chain of 
> events got started in the first place was because people played around, 
> experimated, tinkered, etc, and came to incorrect conclusions.
>
>
>   
Ok

However, if you expect any results i would recommend a change of
approach because i get the impression that even the most patient of us
here are feeling abused


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