On 12/05/2012 11:01 AM, Yair Zaslavsky wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Böck" <[email protected]>
To: "Itamar Heim" <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:48:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] Manage users without Red Hat Directory Server or IBM 
Tivoli Directory Server?

Dear Itamar,

we (German Air Navigation Services) would like to use oVirt for
testing our air traffic applications.
In our air traffic application system, there is no directory service,
since we don't need one. Consequently our test system has no
directory service too.
We differentiate only between root-users (manage the OS), air traffic
application operational-users and air traffic application
technical-users.
For three kinds of users a directory service would mean too much
overhead.
oVirt is complex enough, therefore it would be advantegous to have a
simple user-management without the need to install/configure/run a
directory service infrastructure.

Best regards
Dennis
Hi Dennis,
 From what you're describing - you have to populate oVirt somehow with 3 groups 
-
root-users, air trafdfic application operational-users and air traffic 
application technical-users.

Not sure if you have technical developers at your organization, but at past we 
developed an internal broker [1] which is not Ldap/Directory-Service based.
We have future thoughts about supporting not just directory services.
But for now - perhaps the quickest thing for you guys (if you have a technical 
team of developers) is to write your own broker, similar to the internal 
broker).
I actually saw a non ldap broker that was implemented based on the way the 
internal broker was implemented.
But I really think you should reconsider your decision NOT to use ldap 
directory-service


[1] - Internal broker - the piece of code responsible for the admin@interal user


Yair
I feel that we do need a plain and simple user management broker (could be file based similar to jboss user/group properties). Dennis concerns about the time/money to invest in an up & running
installation with few groups seems just.

we can make /etc/ovirt-engine/user-management/users.properties and group.properties

users.properties:

 #key could be considered as the DN

 user1.name=Dennis
 user1.id={UUID}
 user1.groupids={admins group id},{others}
 user1.pass=plaintext

group properties:

 admins.id={UUID}
 admins.desc=some description


________________________________________
Von: Itamar Heim [[email protected]]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2012 00:44
An: Dennis Böck
Cc: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [Users] Manage users without Red Hat Directory Server or
IBM Tivoli Directory Server?

On 12/03/2012 08:51 AM, Dennis Böck wrote:
Dear oVirt-Community,

how can I add a new User? If I click “Add” under the “Users”-Tag of
the
web interface, I cannot create a new user. If I start a search,
only the
user “admin” is displayed.

Is it maybe not possible to create users out of oVirt?

Even users which I added locally (on the fedora host which runs the
ovirt engine) are not displayed.

Can you only manage users if oVirt is connected to a Red Hat
Directory
Server or IBM Tivoli Directory Server?

can you please explain the use case where there is no existing
directory
to handle group membership and authentication?

thanks,
     Itamar
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