On Dec 6, 2013, at 5:25 AM, Vinzenz Feenstra <[email protected]> wrote:

> I understand that you're disappointed and we're trying to make our best to 
> make the user experience better. You should be considering the age of the 
> project and what we're actually already providing. Yes not everything is 
> perfect, but we're working hard on improving it.
> We're working in a collaborative way together with the community, if you're 
> missing something, there's always the possibility to help out. Even if you're 
> not a programmer you can help improving the experience.

Bob pretty much said it all for me already…I’m not so much as disappointed in 
ovirt development as I am the marketing of it.  ovirt is being marketed as an 
ESXi replacement when it surely isn’t.  Probably 90%+ of what ESXi is used for 
is virtualizing Windows.  Give ovirt in it’s current form to a typical Windows 
user and they’ll self destruct.

The first issue with the agents as I can’t even find any documentation on what 
agents really need installing, and what features I’m getting with that agent!

Another thing is, I would think that Fedora would be integrated enough with 
ovirt that it would be able to automatically detect it’s running on ovirt and 
install all the required agents automatically.

I forgot my number 5)  BIOS needs to work like a standard PC BIOS (as does 
ESXi) in allowing you to press F8 to get a boot menu or F12 for network boot.  
This run once stuff is silly.  It works fine the first time I create a VM as 
there’s no bootable OS on the datastore, but if I need to re-PXE boot a VM, 
then I have to Run Once..OK, fine, but when the PXE completes it reboots, back 
into network boot, then I have to kill the VM and restart it normally.  Under a 
PC (or ESXi) BIOS, I just hit F12, network boot, OS re-installs, then  reboots 
normally.  Much better user experience.   I gave our Red Hat sales people 
feedback on this issue and was told it’s not going to change. 
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