On 01/20/2014 01:19 PM, Andrew Lau wrote:
Hi,

That bug seems to be private :(

I'm interested also to hear about this feature, as with 3.3.2 I had my
gluster vms go into paused state quite a few times and they actually
couldn't be resumed at all, they needed to be forced off and back on.

did the storage domain go back to up and they remained down?


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Dafna Ron <d...@redhat.com
<mailto:d...@redhat.com>> wrote:

    interesting... :) so this is now configurable...
    what happens if qemu fails to start the vm (this happens sometimes -
    mostly on file type storage). do we have a re-try or a specific
    error telling the use that the activation failed and manual
    intervention is required?



    On 01/20/2014 11:02 AM, Leonid Natapov wrote:

        All vms. Check this PRD:
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/__show_bug.cgi?id=723055
        <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723055>


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Dafna Ron" <d...@redhat.com <mailto:d...@redhat.com>>
        To: "Leonid Natapov" <lnata...@redhat.com
        <mailto:lnata...@redhat.com>>
        Cc: "Andrew Lau" <and...@andrewklau.com
        <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com>>, "Yedidyah Bar David"
        <d...@redhat.com <mailto:d...@redhat.com>>, "users"
        <users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>>
        Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 12:44:46 PM
        Subject: Re: [Users] Issues starting hosted engine VM

        On 01/20/2014 10:38 AM, Leonid Natapov wrote:

            1.hosted-engine --vm-start should start engine vm. There was
            no problem with it when I tested it.
            2.hosted-engine --vm-start-paused was added for the case
            when something is wrong with engine vm and it can't start
            and requires user intervention. For example in case of
            kernel panic.
            User can start engine vm in paused mode ,connect to it and
            try to fix the problem by booting in single user mode ,etc.
            3.When the connectivity to shared storage is lost engine vm
            becomes paused. VM should be automatically unpaused after
            connectivity resumes (we introduced this feature in 3.3) but
            in case of NFS it could take quite time.so may be we should
            add something like --vm-resume in order to resume

        Are we talking only on the hosted engine vm or all other vm's?
        if I have
        other vm's they will also stop, will they be auto started as well?

            the engine vm manually.

            Thanks,
            Leonid.


            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "Andrew Lau" <and...@andrewklau.com
            <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com>>
            To: d...@redhat.com <mailto:d...@redhat.com>
            Cc: "Leonid Natapov" <lnata...@redhat.com
            <mailto:lnata...@redhat.com>>, "Yedidyah Bar David"
            <d...@redhat.com <mailto:d...@redhat.com>>, "users"
            <users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>>
            Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 12:28:15 PM
            Subject: Re: [Users] Issues starting hosted engine VM

            It was paused due to the connection loss to the NFS server,
            I would assume
            once the connection is restored it could attempt to restore
            it? But I can
            try dig up the vdsm logs if you want, they would only be a
            few hours old

            I think having an option like --vm-resume would at least
            hide the reason of
            having to dig into virsh and messing with authentication at
            the very least.

            On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Dafna Ron <d...@redhat.com
            <mailto:d...@redhat.com>> wrote:

                the question is what was the vm paused on... this can be
                found in the qemu
                vm log.
                if the vm is paused it will not be auto started - so I
                am not sure what
                you expect to change? virsh requires authentication
                regardless to hosted
                engine :)
                Leonid, did you do any testing there?


                On 01/20/2014 10:13 AM, Andrew Lau wrote:

                    I have opened this BZ 1055461 anyway just in case


                    On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Andrew Lau
                    <and...@andrewklau.com
                    <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com><mailto:
                    and...@andrewklau.com
                    <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com>>> wrote:

                           I was more interested in how the score
                    process would be
                           calculated, the vm-status option considered
                    the VM in a bad state.

                           I left it for a few minutes and nothing
                    seemed to have changed, I
                           think it relates to hosted engine as virsh
                    requires
                           authentication. Should I still open a bz?

                           Cheers,
                           Andrew.

                           On Jan 20, 2014 7:48 PM, "Dafna Ron"
                    <d...@redhat.com <mailto:d...@redhat.com>
                           <mailto:d...@redhat.com
                    <mailto:d...@redhat.com>>> wrote:

                               I am not sure this is a hosted engine
                    question as much as a
                               qemu question.
                               qemu-kvm will not support auto start of
                    vm's after EIO because
                               of remote possibility of corruption.

                               On 01/20/2014 05:46 AM, Andrew Lau wrote:

                                   Hi,

                                   Quick question, in the scenario eg.
                    the NFS server becomes
                                   unreachable and the hosted-engine
                    goes into a paused
                                   state. Will other hosts attempt to
                    bring it back up?
                                   Should there be a command eg.
                      hosted-engine --vm-resume ?

                                   When this happened, I manually forced
                    it to resume using virsh


                                   On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 7:21 PM,
                    Yedidyah Bar David
                                   <d...@redhat.com
                    <mailto:d...@redhat.com> <mailto:d...@redhat.com
                    <mailto:d...@redhat.com>>
                                   <mailto:d...@redhat.com
                    <mailto:d...@redhat.com> <mailto:d...@redhat.com
                    <mailto:d...@redhat.com>>>> wrote:

                                       Thanks a lot for your efforts and
                    the report!
                                       --     Didi


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                                           *Subject: *Re: [Users] Issues
                    starting hosted
                                   engine VM


                                           I believe I found the issue
                    and have reported it here
                    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/__show_bug.cgi?id=1055059 
<https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055059>

                                           On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:33
                    PM, Andrew Lau
                                           <and...@andrewklau.com
                    <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com>
                                   <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com
                    <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com>>
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                    <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com>

                                   <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com
                    <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com>>__>> wrote:

                                               The interesting thing -
                    trying it with the
                                   paused option
                                               vdsm seems to create the VM

                                               hosted-engine
                    --vm-start-paused

                                               vdsm.log
                    http://www.fpaste.org/69604/__13900482/
                    <http://www.fpaste.org/69604/13900482/>

                                               But I'm not sure how to
                    then proceed to
                                   "resume" it.

                                               On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at
                    10:23 PM, Andrew Lau
                                               <and...@andrewklau.com
                    <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com>
                                   <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com
                    <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com>>
                                   <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com
                    <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com>

                                   <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com
                    <mailto:and...@andrewklau.com>>__>> wrote:

                                                   Hi,

                                                   With the great help
                    from sbonazzo, I
                                   managed to step
                                                   past the initial bug
                    with the
                                   hosted-engine-setup but
                                                   appear to have run
                    into another show stopper.

                                                   I ran through the
                    install process
                                   successfully up to
                                                   the stage where it
                    completed and the
                                   engine VM was to
                                                   be shutdown. (The
                    engine has already been
                                   installed on
                                                   the VM and the host
                    has been connected to
                                   the engine).

                                                   The issue starts here
                    that the host finds
                                   itself not
                                                   able to start the VM
                    up again.

                                                   VDSM Logs:
                    http://www.fpaste.org/69592/__00427141/
                    <http://www.fpaste.org/69592/00427141/>

                    ovirt-hosted-engine-ha agent.log
                    http://www.fpaste.org/69595/__43609139/
                    <http://www.fpaste.org/69595/43609139/>

                                                   It seems to keep
                    failing to start the VM..
                                   when I
                                                   restart the agent I
                    can see the score drop
                                   to 0 after
                                                   3 boot attempts.  The
                    interesting thing
                                   seems to be in
                                                   the VDSM Logs
                    "'Virtual machine does not
                                   exist',
                                                   'code': 1}}"

                                                   I'm not sure where
                    else to look. Suggestions?

                                                   Cheers,

                                                   Andrew





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