what do you mean that host1 is engine + vdsm, are you using hosted engine?



On 04/23/2014 01:59 PM, Tamer Lima wrote:

hello,
thanks for reply

my storage is NFS v3, defined on host 01. My DATA-DOMAIN and ISO-DOMAIN are hosted on host 01; my SPM is located on host 03, I dont remember why. I tried to migrate SPM to host 01 but is not possible. All creation of virtual machine starts on server 01 (






On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Dafna Ron <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I think that you are mixing up a lot of different things and to be
    honest I am not sure what configuration you have and what exactly
    you are trying to do.
    so lets try to simplify it?
    what type of storage are you working on?
    which host is the spm?



    On 04/22/2014 07:36 PM, Tamer Lima wrote:

        hello,

        I am in trouble

        I have 3 servers dedicated to test OVIRT:
        01- engine + vdsm (8 cpus, 32GB ram , 2TB HD)
        02 - vdsm (8 cpus, 32GB ram , 2TB HD)
        03 - vdsm (8 cpus, 32GB ram , 2TB HD)

        I want to create cloned virtual machines but in my
        configuration I can only save virtual machines on server 01;
        my configuration refers a DATA DOMAIN on server 01

        All my virtual machines are : 2 cpu , 6 GB ram , 500gb HD and
        were created like CLONE

        My server 01 is the data domain and all new virtual machine is
        created, via NFS, on server 01 , who has 2TB maximum capacity
        ( the same size of partition /sda3 = 2TB)

        how can I save each virtual machine on a desired vdsm server ?

        What I want is :
        server 01 - engine + vdsm : 03 virtual machines running and
        hosted phisicaly on this host
        server 02 - vdsm : 04 virtual machines running and hosted
        phisicaly on this host
        server 03 - vdsm : 04 virtual machines running and hosted
        phisicaly on this host

        but I have this :
        server 01 - engine + vdsm : 03 virtual machines running and
        hosted phisicaly on this host
        server 02 - vdsm : 01 virtual machines running on this server
        BUT hosted phisicaly on server 01
        server 03 - vdsm : none, because my DATA DOMAIN IS FULL (2TB )

        How to solve this problem ?
        is it possible create one DATA DOMAIN for each VDSM host ? I
        think this is the solution but I do not know how to point VMs
        to be saved on specific data domain.

        thanks




        On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Michal Skrivanek
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:


            On Apr 17, 2014, at 16:43 , Tamer Lima
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

            > hi, thanks for reply
            >
            > I am investigating what is and how "thin virtualization"
        works
            >
            > Do you know if HADOOP is indicated to work under "thin"
            environment ?
            > On Hadoop I will put large workloads and this thin
            virtualization utilizes more resources than exists (shareable
            environment)
            > that is,
            > if I have a real physical necessity of 500gb for each hadoop
            host and my Thin Virtualization has 2TB on NFS, I can have
        only 4
            virtual machines (500GB each), or less.
            >
            > For this case I believe clone virtual machine is the right
            choice. But in my environment it takes 1h30m to build one
        cloned
            virtual machine.

            if you plan to overcommit then go with thin. The drawback
        is that
            if you of course hit the physical limit the VMs will run
        out of
            space...
            if you plan to allocate 500GB each, consume all of it,
        never plan
            to grow then go with the "clone"….yes, it's going to take
        time to
            write all that stuff. With "thin" you need to do the same
        amount
            of writes, but gradually over time while you're allocating
        it it

            hope it helps

            Thanks,
            michal

            >
            >
            >
            > Am I correct ?
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Michal Skrivanek
            <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>>

            wrote:
            >
            > On Apr 16, 2014, at 16:41 , Tamer Lima
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
            >
            > >
            > >
            > > Hello,
            > >
            > > I created VMs by two ways :
            > >
            > > 1) on tab virtual machines > new vm > template
        (centos_65_64bits)
            > > 1.1 configuration : I do not select stateless checkbox
            > > 1.2 this process takes a 1h30 to create each machine.
            > >
            > > 2) on tab pools > new vm > template (centos_65_64bits)
            > > 2.1 default configuration : stateless
            > > 2.2 Here I created 3 virtual machines at once
            > > 2.3 this process takes only one minute
            > >
            > > On the tab virtual machines I can see all virtual
        machines.
            > > Pooled machines have different icon image
            > > and description is different too:
            > >
            > > machines generated from tab VM are described as
        clone/dependent
            > > - clone is a phisical copy?
            > > machines generated from tab POOL are described as
        thin/independent
            > > - thin is a just a reference to template vm ? what is
            phisical? any configuration file?
            >
            > yeah, sort of.
            > just google thin provisioning in general:)
            >
            >
            > >
            > >
            > > In practice, what is the difference between these
        machines ?
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/PrestartedVm
            > > "Today there are 2 types of Vm pools:
            > > • Manual - the Vm is supposed to be manually returned
        to the
            pool. In practice, this is not really entirely supported.
            > > • Automatic - once the user shuts down the Vm - it
        returns to
            the pool (stateless)."
            > >
            > > all vm created from pool are stateless ?
            >
            > the automatic pool, yes
            >
            > Thanks,
            > michal
            >
            > >
            > >
            > > thanks
            > >
            > >
            > >
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