On 11/9/2015 6:20 PM, Martin Polednik wrote:
On 09/11/15 14:00 -0500, Jason Keltz wrote:
Hi Shmuel,
Thanks very much for looking into my problem!
I installed 3.6 on the engine. I rebooted the engine.
The 3 hosts were still running vdsm from 3.5. I checked back in the
yum log, and it was 4.16.26-0.el7.
On the first host upgrade (virt1), I made a mistake. After bringing
in the 3.6 repo, I upgraded the packages with just "yum update".
However, I know that I should have put the host into maintenance mode
first. After the updates installed, I put the host into maintenance
mode, and it migrated the VMs off, during which I saw more than one
failed VM migration.
I'm willing to accept the failures there because I should have put
the host into maintenance mode first. Live and learn!
I had two other hosts to do this right. For virt2, and virt3, I put
the hosts into maintenance mode first. However, the same problem
occurred with failed migrations. I proceeded anyway, brought the
failed VMs back up elsewhere, applied the updates, and rebooted the
hosts.
So now, 3.6 is installed on the engine and the 3 hosts, and they are
all rebooted.
I tried another migration, and again, there were failures, so this
isn't specifically related to just 3.6.
By the way, I'm using ovirtmgmt for migrations. virt1, virt2, and
virt3 have a dedicated 10G link via Intel X540 to a 10G switch.
engine is on that network as well, but it's a 1G link.
I was able to run iperf tests between the nodes, and saw nearly 10G
speed. During the failed migrations, I also don't have any problem
with ovirtmgmt, so I don't think the network is an issue...
I found this bug in bugzilla over the weekend:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142776
I was nearly positive that this had something to do with the failed
migrations. As a final test, I decided to migrate the VMs from one
host to another, one at a time. I was nearly done migrating all the
VMs from virt3 to virt1. I had migrated 5 VMs all successfully, one
at a time, without any failures. When I migrated the 6th, boom - it
didn't migrate, and the VM was down. It was a pretty basic VM as
well, with very little traffic.
I included on the bug report above an additional link with the
engine, virt1, virt2, and virt3 logs for Saturday where I was doing
this experimentation because there's a couple more failures
recorded. I'll include that link here:
http://www.eecs.yorku.ca/~jas/ovirt-debug/11072015
The last VM that I attempted to transfer one at a time was "webapp".
It was transferred from virt3 to virt1.
I'm really puzzled that more people haven't experienced this issue.
I've disabled the load balancing feature because I'm really concerned
that if it load balances my VMs, then they might not come back up! I
don't *think* this was happening when I was all purely 3.5, but I
can't remember doing big migrations. I most certainly was able to
put a host into maintenance mode without having VMs go down!
In another email, Dan Kenisberg says that "It seems that 3.6's
vdsm-4.17.10.1 cannot consume a Random Number Generator device that
was created on 3.5.". Thanks also to Dan for looking into that as
well! I'm still waiting for more details though before opening
additional bug reports because this puzzles me... if this were the
case, then ALL of the VMs were created on 3.5, and ALL with random
number generator device, and all would fail migration, but they
don't. I have a feeling that there are a few issues at play here.
Hello and sorry for dropping in so late.
The issue is that 3.5 engine created RNG device without sending the
device key (which should've been 'rng' but it wasn't properly
documented in the API as fixed in [1]). This caused the
getUnderlyingRngDevice method to fail matching the device (fixed in
[2]) and it would therefore be treated as unknown device (where the
notion of 'source' isn't known). 3.6 engine should handle it correctly
[3].
The implication is that when VM is created in 3.5 environment and
moved to 3.6 environment, the matching will work but there will be 2
RNG devices for the single one. Same goes for migration.
I'm not sure about the fix yet, to rescue the 3.6 VM we would have to
remove the duplicate device without specParams (meaning that address
would be lost) or remove the original device but adding it's
specParams to the new device. A temporary fix would be creating a hook
that does this.
[1] https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/43166/
[2] https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/40095/
[3] https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/43165/
Martin,
Thanks for your message and for looking at the debug logs.
What I don't understand is why in my last test case, I was able to
transition 5 VMs from one host to another, completely successfully, and
only on the 6th, the problem occurred.? Why would this RNG issue not
have come up with every single transition? What is it that made it
happen on the 6th? I still have a feeling that there is something else
at play here as well. All of my VMs were created on 3.5, and all of
them have RNG devices.
Assuming that you've created a bug entry, can you please give me the
bugzilla ID so I can add myself to it? I'm anxious for when you've come
up with a patch to fix the existing issue. All of my VMs were created
on 3.5, and I don't want to have to hold my breath every time I
transition VMs from one host to another.
Jason.
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