Hello
i just changed xfs to ext4 and defragmantion is much better then before, i will also try kernel lts from elrepo and test it again. Thanks Wolfgang -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Yaniv Kaul <yk...@redhat.com> Gesendet: Die 23 August 2016 19:46 An: Wolfgang Bucher <wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de> CC: Charles Gruener <cgrue...@gruener.us> Betreff: Re: AW: [ovirt-users] Problem starting VMs On Aug 23, 2016 7:33 PM, "Wolfgang Bucher" <wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de <mailto:wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de> > wrote: > > Hello > > > I am using local storage with adaptec raid controller, disk format is raw Raw is always raw-sparse, so that may explain this somehow, yet still odd that Windows installation would cause so much fragmentation. I wonder if using the discard hook (and IDE or virtio-scsi) would help - or perhaps using a qcow2 makes more sense (create a snapshot right after disk creation for example). > > > image: e4d797d1-5719-48d0-891e-a36cd4a79c33 > file format: raw > virtual size: 50G (53687091200 bytes) > disk size: 8.5G > > > this is a fresh installation of W2012 after installation i got with xfs_db > -c frag -r /dev/sdb1: > > aktuell 407974, ideal 35, Unterteilungsfaktor 99,99% And the XFS formatted with default parameters? Y. > > > Thanks > > > Wolfgang > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Yaniv Kaul <yk...@redhat.com <mailto:yk...@redhat.com> > >> Gesendet: Die 23 August 2016 17:56 >> An: Wolfgang Bucher <wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de >> <mailto:wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de> > >> CC: Michal Skrivanek <michal.skriva...@redhat.com >> <mailto:michal.skriva...@redhat.com> >; users@ovirt.org >> <mailto:users@ovirt.org> (users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> ) >> <users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> > >> >> Betreff: Re: [ovirt-users] Problem starting VMs >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Wolfgang Bucher >> <wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de <mailto:wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de> > >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello >>> >>> >>> in var log messages i get following : >>> >>> >>> kernel: XFS: possible memory allocation deadlock in kmem_alloc (mode:0x250) >>> >>> >>> I have this problem on 4 different hosts. >>> >>> >>> This happens during copying files from network to a thin provisioned disk, >>> no problems with preallocated disks. >> >> >> What kind of storage are you using? local storage? Even though, it makes >> little sense to me - the disk is a qcow2 disk, which shouldn't be very >> fragmented as you might think (qcow2 grows in 64K chunks). >> It may grow and grow and grow (until you sparsify it), but that's not going >> to cause fragmentation. What causes it to be fragmented? Perhaps the >> internal qcow2 mapping is quite fragmented? >> Y. >> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Wolfgang >>> >>> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>> Von: Michal Skrivanek <michal.skriva...@redhat.com >>>> <mailto:michal.skriva...@redhat.com> > >>>> Gesendet: Die 23 August 2016 17:11 >>>> An: Wolfgang Bucher <wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de >>>> <mailto:wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de> > >>>> CC: Milan Zamazal <mzama...@redhat.com <mailto:mzama...@redhat.com> >; >>>> users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> (users@ovirt.org >>>> <mailto:users@ovirt.org> ) <users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> > >>>> Betreff: Re: [ovirt-users] Problem starting VMs >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 23 Aug 2016, at 11:06, Wolfgang Bucher <wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de >>>>> <mailto:wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thank's >>>>> >>>>> but what do you mean with "initialization is finished” >>>> >>>> >>>> until it gets from WaitForLaunch to PoweringUp state, effectively until >>>> the qemu process properly starts up >>>> >>>>> >>>>> sometimes the vm crashes while copying files! >>>> >>>> >>>> when exactly? Can you describe exactly what you are doing and what is >>>> reported as a reason for crash. When exactly does it crash and how? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> michal >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wolfgang >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>>>> Von: Milan Zamazal <mzama...@redhat.com <mailto:mzama...@redhat.com> > >>>>>> Gesendet: Die 23 August 2016 16:59 >>>>>> An: Wolfgang Bucher <wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de >>>>>> <mailto:wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de> > >>>>>> CC: users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> (users@ovirt.org >>>>>> <mailto:users@ovirt.org> ) <users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> > >>>>>> Betreff: Re: AW: Problem starting VMs >>>>>> >>>>>> Wolfgang Bucher <wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de >>>>>> <mailto:wolfgang.buc...@netland-mn.de> > writes: >>>>>> >>>>>> > the problem is "waiting for launch" takes up to 20 min. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I did a lot of tests with some vm's and th problem is: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 1. create a win2012 server >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 2. attache a new disk (thin provision) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 3. fill the disk from network share with about 100G >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 4. shutdown the vm >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 5. reboot host and try starting the vm (takes a lot of time until >>>>>> > launch) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > It's because of a high fragmented filessystem >>>>>> >>>>>> I see, thank you for the explanation. In such a case, it may take a lot >>>>>> of time before all the initialization is finished. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Milan >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Users mailing list >>>>> Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>> <http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> <http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users> >>> >>
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