Le 30/12/2016 à 20:53, Dan Yasny a écrit :
I personally found that she'll isn't as useful as the python sdk. I usually open up ipython, load the sdk and interact with ovirt directly. This is faster and much more powerful than the shell could ever be.
okay, I suppose you to be a regular python user. Can you imagine how much time I spent just to understand how it works?
That is to say:

 * installing pip and not pip3 because provided
   python-ovirt-engine-sdk4 is default installed to /usr/lib64/python2.7,
 * installing ipython,
 * importing the good modules,
 * finding pertinent examples,
 * understand differences between sdk3 and 4
 * correcting some wrong examples
 * adapting example to my need?

I can't see how it can be fast for the newbie.
What's the first goal of a CLI? to abstract all this stuff for the python newbie. If you want a easy-to-use webadmin for attracting a large public, you should provide easy-to-use CLI as well. Ovirt-shell was a part of my choice to use ovirt. Yes we can learn to use SDK (I dit it), but I don't think a lot people who chose ovirt for simplicity wll use it except advanced users. A new time, thank you for the great stuff for the great oVirt project, but I find there is too much distance between devs and users.
What do really think the community about this?

On Dec 30, 2016 11:22 AM, "Nathanaël Blanchet" <blanc...@abes.fr <mailto:blanc...@abes.fr>> wrote:

    Interesting work and thank you for this stuff. I played with some
    modules (ovirt_vms_facts) to get some vms name for example.

      * [root@acore ovirt]# ansible-playbook All_Vms_list.yml
      * with
          - name: List vms
            ovirt_vms_facts:
              auth: "{{ ovirt_auth }}"
              pattern: name=test_cloud
              fetch_nested: true
              nested_attributes: name
            register: ovirt_vms

          - shell: echo "{{ ovirt_vms.name <http://ovirt_vms.name> }}
        > vms_name" // doesn't work

      *   - shell: echo "{{ ovirt_vms }} > vms_name // returns an
        unicode json file, that's surely why we can't parse it. Can
        you help me to solve this into the ovirt_vms_facts.py file?

      * I have no such problem with ovirt_snaphots_module and I can
        easily get the snaphot.id <http://snaphot.id> variable.... but:
          o I had to manually copy the ovirt_snaphsots_module because
            it is not present on the git tree. This is very curious:
            we can find it here
            
http://ovirt-ansible-modules.readthedocs.io/en/latest/_modules/ovirt_snapshots_module.htm
            
<http://ovirt-ansible-modules.readthedocs.io/en/latest/_modules/ovirt_snapshots_module.htm>,
            but it is not available on the main ansible git tre.
          o On the doc, return values are not described

    For the moment, my opinion is that ansible can't be as much
    convinient as the current CLI, e.g. ovirt-shell -E "list vms", out
    of the box. Is there a really reason to deprecate it?


    Le 02/12/2016 à 14:12, Ondra Machacek a écrit :
    Hello all,

    I would like to kindly ask everyone who is Ansible or oVirt user for
    testing of the new Ansible oVirt modules. For everyone who is
    familiar
    with the Ansible and oVirt, this[1] describes the steps you need
    to do,
    to setup oVirt modules library and start using those modules
    (Most of those modules will be available in Ansible 2.3, some of
    them are already in 2.2).

    If you have any issue setting this up, please contact me, I will
    do the
    best to help you.

    If you have an issue, which you think is a bug, please open an issue
    here[2]. Please note that Ansible is merging it's repositories,
    so since
    next week it will actually be stored here[3]. If you are missing
    anything please open an issue as well, or just contact me, and I
    will
    do fix it. You are also very welcome to sent PR with fixes.

    For those who don't have testing environment which can test against,
    I've created an Vagrant project which will deploy you the oVirt
    instance
    using Ansible playbooks. You can find how to use it here[4].

    The repository also contains few examples[5], so you don't have to
    copy-paste them from the source.

    Thanks all for reading this and any feedback,
    Ondra

    [1] https://github.com/machacekondra/ovirt-tests/releases/tag/0.1
    <https://github.com/machacekondra/ovirt-tests/releases/tag/0.1>
    [2] https://github.com/ansible/ansible-modules-extras/issues
    <https://github.com/ansible/ansible-modules-extras/issues>
    [3] https://github.com/ansible/ansible
    <https://github.com/ansible/ansible>
    [4] https://github.com/machacekondra/ovirt-tests
    <https://github.com/machacekondra/ovirt-tests>
    [5]
    https://github.com/machacekondra/ovirt-tests/tree/master/examples
    <https://github.com/machacekondra/ovirt-tests/tree/master/examples>
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