> This is UXD guideline around web applications. > > Some will like it more, and some won't understand why they don't see the > browser menu they expect when they right click. > > There is no "one size fits all here", but that's the guideline we followed.
That’s very true. I haven’t read the paternfly guidelines, but is there an option for a modifier click? Or I might suggest that the machine icon could be overloaded with the “old” right click menu on click for that little bit of extra functionality? > On Oct 31, 2017 8:01 PM, "FERNANDO FREDIANI" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Question is: who is the user ? There are different types of them for > different proposes. > > Fernando > > On 31/10/2017 15:57, Oved Ourfali wrote: >> As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but not the only one. You see >> right click less and less in web applications, as it isn't considered a good >> user experience. This is also the patternfly guideline (patternfly is a >> framework we heavily use throughout the application). >> >> We will however consider bringing this back if there will be high demand. >> >> Thanks for the feedback! >> Oved >> >> On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell Budic" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will miss it. >> With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface, but I’m never going >> to use it for primary work. Please prioritize ease of use on Desktop over >> Mobile! >> >> >>> From: FERNANDO FREDIANI <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release is now >>> available for testing >>> Date: October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Will the right click dialog be available in the final release? Because, >>>>> currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to interact with >>>>> object (migrate, maintenance...) >>>>> >>>> Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose. >>>> >>>> Long answer: No, here are the reasons why: >>>> - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and while its not >>>> 100% >>>> there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now. Mobile >>>> devices >>>> don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there would make no >>>> sense. >>> Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile usage is >>> nice to have in "certain" situations. In real day by day operation nobody >>> uses mobile devices to do their deployments and manage their large >>> environments. If having both options where you can switch between then is >>> nice, but if something should prevail should always be Desktop. We are not >>> talking about a Stock Trading interface or something you need that level or >>> flexibility and mobility to do static things anytime anywhere. >>> >>> So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are pretty useful >>> for a day by day and real management usage because of a new trend or buzz >>> stuff. >>> Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will be for >>> quite a while. >>>> - You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of ours and you >>>> can do things like copy from the menu. >>>> - We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the buttons/kebab >>>> menu >>>> available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly used actions >>>> as >>>> a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter the >>>> interface. >>>> We traded an extra click for some mouse travel >>>> - Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click menu because >>>> its >>>> a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that was only >>>> available in the right click menu. >>>> >>>> Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good move or not. >>>> For >>>> now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it back, it is >>>> certainly possible we will put it back. >>>> >>>>>> that is something you are interested in. Its also much faster and better >>>>>> than before. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 31/10/2017 10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote: >>>>>>>> The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability of the First >>>>>>>> Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of October 31st, 2017 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is pre-release software. 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