On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 8:00 PM, Yaniv Kaul <yk...@redhat.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mar 13, 2018 6:27 PM, "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbona...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> 4 people accepted calendar invite:
> - Devin A. Bougie
> - Francesco Romani
> - Jiri Belka
> - suporte, logicworks
>
> 4 people tentatively accepted calendar invite:
> - Amnon Maimon
> - Andreas Bleischwitz
> - Arnaud Lauriou
> - Stephen Pesini
>
> 2 mailing lists accepted calendar invite: users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org
> (don't ask me how) so I may have missed someone in above list
>
>
> 4 patches got merged:
> Add check for host update to the 1st host.
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88767> Merged Yaniv Kaul
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:ykaul%2540redhat.com+status:merged>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default> 
> master
> (add_upgrade_check)
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:merged+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master+topic:add_upgrade_check>
>  4:10
> PM
> basic-suite-master: add vnic_profile_mappings to register vm
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/87438> Merged Eitan Raviv
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:eraviv%2540redhat.com+status:merged>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default> 
> master
> (register-template-vnic-mapping)
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:merged+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master+topic:register-template-vnic-mapping>
>  2:50
> PM
> Revert "ovirt-4.2: Skipping 002_bootstrap.update_default_cluster"
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88881> Merged Eyal Edri
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:eedri%2540redhat.com+status:merged>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default>
> master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:merged+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master>
>  11:36
> AM
> seperate 4.2 tests and utils from master <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88878>
> Merged Eyal Edri
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:eedri%2540redhat.com+status:merged>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default>
> master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:merged+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master>
>  11:35
> AM
>
> 13 patches has been pushed / reviewed / rebased
>
> Add gdeploy to ovirt-4.2.repo <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88929>
> Daniel Belenky
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:dbelenky%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default>
> master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master>
>  4:53
> PM
> Cleanup of test code - next() replaced with any()
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88928>
> Martin Sivák
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:msivak%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default>
> master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master>
>  4:51
> PM
> Add network queues custom property and use it in the vnic profile for VM0
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88829>
> Yaniv Kaul
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:ykaul%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default> 
> master
> (multi_queue_config)
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master+topic:multi_queue_config>
>  4:49
> PM
> new suite: he-basic-iscsi-suite-master <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/85838>
> Yuval Turgeman
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:yturgema%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default> 
> master
> (he-basic-iscsi-suite-master)
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master+topic:he-basic-iscsi-suite-master>
>  4:47
> PM
> Collect host-deploy bundle from the engine
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88925>
> Yedidyah Bar David
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:didi%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default>
> master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master>
>  4:41
> PM
> network-suite-master: Make openstack_client_config fixture available to
> all ... <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88029> Merge Conflict Marcin Mirecki
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:mmirecki%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default>
> master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master>
>  3:39
> PM
> new suite: he-basic-ng-ansible-suite-master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88901>
> Sandro Bonazzola
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:sbonazzo%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default> 
> master
> (he-basic-ng-ansible-suite-master)
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master+topic:he-basic-ng-ansible-suite-master>
>  3:37
> PM
> Enable and move additional tests to 002 <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88711>
> Yaniv Kaul
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:ykaul%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default> 
> master
> (move_more_to_002)
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master+topic:move_more_to_002>
>  3:08
> PM
> common: ovirt-4.2.repo <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88904>
> Sandro Bonazzola
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:sbonazzo%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default>
> master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master>
>  2:34
> PM
> networking: Introducing test_stateless_vm_duplicate_ma
> c_addr_vnic_does_not_be... <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/86946>
> Leon Goldberg
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:lgoldber%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default>
> master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master>
>  2:08
> PM
> hc: Updating gdeploy conf to create vdo volumes
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88899>
> Sahina Bose
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:sabose%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default>
> master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master>
>  12:55
> PM
> master: add USB to the sanity VM <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88731>
> Michal Skrivanek
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:michal.skrivanek%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default>
> master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master>
>  12:54
> PM
> Test hosted-engine cleanup <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/88331>
> Yedidyah Bar David
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/owner:didi%2540redhat.com+status:open>
> ovirt-system-tests
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/projects/ovirt-system-tests,dashboards/default>
> master
> <https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-system-tests+branch:master>
>  9:39
> AM
>
>
> Nice list of patches!
>
>
>
> Feedback from the event:
> - "if we want to add many more tests to OST, and I think we do, we need to
> do some change there to allow that. Current framework is simply not
> scalable enough"
>
>
> More specific and constructive ideas are welcome. We know we want to move
> to pytest, for example.
>

+1, there is a lot of things we need to improve in OST, the network suite
is a good example of going forward with PyTest, we have other idea for
improvements like splitting the suites into multiple projects using a new
feature in std-ci,
dropping the reposync file or making it optional ( actually ovirt-demo-tool
is already doing that, using release rpms ).

If there are more ideas, we can consider doing an infra hackathon where we
can focus in improving infrastructure and moving to PyTest most of the
tests ( at least in master ) .


>
> - not joining the hackathon because "I'd be like an elephant in a
> porcelain shop"
> - "I'm not sure I'm OK with the flood of suites that we have - the more
> we have, the harder it is to sync and maintain but more importantly - to
> run."
> - "We can't keep adding new suite for each parameter we want to test, it
> adds overhead to monitoring, resources and maintenance."
>
>
> I tend to agree, but not sure how to elegantly solve it.
>

We need to think on a new design for it which includes scalability and
multiple maintainers, the requirements and usage has changed significantly
over the years,
I also don't have an easy solution for it, yet at least.


>
> - invite wasn't clear enough. I found people on #ovirt on Freenode and on
> Red Hat IRC servers and redirected them to OFTC IRC server (my fault,
> hopefully managed to workaround it by talking to people)
>
>
> Lessons learned:
> - Calendar invites to mailing lists doesn't work well, need a different
> way to track mailing list members joining the events.
> - Invites needs to be pedantic on how to join the event, not leaving space
> for interpretation and misunderstanding.
> - We need a contribution guide to ovirt-system-test: we need to make
> people comfortable in trying to add a new test and we need to ensure that
> we won't reject a day of work because the patch doesn't match core
> contributors plannings on number of suites, resources and so on
>
>
This could have been better if the single OST maintainer could be part of
the planning and also participate and give feedback and assistance,
unfourtunately it was decided to do the hackhaton without him present.
I agree we need to improve our contribution guide, and work has started
towards it, but any specific feedback or tickets on what can be improved
will surely help.


>
> Agree.
> Y.
>
> - The ovirt-system-tests check patch script is not good enough. It
> triggers too many sequential suites on every single patch pushed, and fails
> due to timeout taking more than 6 hours to complete.
>
>
This is very close to be much better, we're 1-2 weeks away from implemeting
a new feature in STD CI V2 which will allow us to replace the existing
'change resolver' and eventually run all suites in check-patch in parallel,
dramatically reducing runtime.


> - The way ovirt-system-test collects rpms from defined repos is not smart
> enough: it doesn't take the latest version of a given package, just the
> first found in sequential order of the repos,
>
>
Its not that its not smart, its by design, repoman uses "only-latest"
option to get the first RPM he finds from the repos, I'm pretty sure there
was a good reason behind it when it was written a few years ago, I'll try
to remember and update.
In any case, the relevant patch where this was needed had a different
problem with dynamic replacement of repos which we need to think on a
solution for.


>
> Thanks everyone who participated to the event! if you have time please
> continue improving ovirt-system-test even if today event is almost
> completed!
>
>
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