On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 6:20 PM John Florian <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 4/10/19 3:06 AM, Yedidyah Bar David wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 1:06 AM John Florian <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> After mucking around trying to use jumbo MTU for my iSCSI storage nets 
> >> (which apparently I can't do because my Cisco 3560 switch only supports 
> >> 1500 max for its vlan interfaces) I got one of my Hosts screwed up.  I 
> >> likely could rebuild it from scratch but I suspect that's overkill.  I 
> >> simply tried to do a reinstall via the GUI.  That fails.  Looking at the 
> >> ovirt-host-deploy log I see several tracebacks with $SUBJECT.
> > Can you please share these logs?
> Here's an example.  Please read ahead before digging into the log though.
>
> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/956Bvf2UXzSwCSjxkD0OEQ/deactivate/vyLHHPInqQ2kz2Xr5KL55V2q2deoVEgmD1hNXtjcTtQQmljFU4gms2QoydmCTTvJ
>
> >
> >>  Since Python pays my bills I figure this is an easy fix.  Except ... I 
> >> see this on the host:
> >>
> >> $ rpm -qf /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/rpmUtils/
> >> yum-3.4.3-161.el7.centos.noarch
> >> $ python
> >> Python 2.7.5 (default, Oct 30 2018, 23:45:53)
> >> [GCC 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-36)] on linux2
> >> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >> Tab completion has been enabled.
> >>>>> import rpmUtils
> >>>>>
> >> I'm guessing this must mean the tracebacks are from Python 3
> > Probably. Do you have it installed?
> Yes, the host has both python34-3.4.9-3.el7.x86_64 and
> python36-3.6.6-5.el7.x86_64.  These are required for some of my local
> packages.

OK

> >
> > In 4.3 we default to python3 if found. This is currently broken on
> > EL7, and we decided to not fix. See also:
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1688811
> >
> > This one is specifically about python34, and causes a different
> > backtrace than yours.
> Yup, but very informative just the same.  For now, I'll just remove the
> extra stuff so that the host deploy can finish.  I assume it's OK to
> have Python 3 installed for my things once the deploy is done.  Is that
> a reasonable assumption?  I mean, everything seemed to be running fine
> until I made the mess and tried using the host reinstall as a handy cleanup.

Yes, this should work. Alternatively, you can try this, on your hosts, before
adding them:

mkdir /etc/otopi.env.d
echo 'OTOPI_PYTHON=/usr/bin/python' > /etc/otopi.env.d/my-python.env

(Directory and extension are mandatory - we source *.env from there).

> >
> > Now that 4.3 is out, I don't mind reverting this decision (of
> > defaulting to python3) if it's considered premature, considering that
> > most developers probably use master branches (4.4) by now (and that
> > python3 support is still not finished :-(, although should work for
> > host-deploy on fedora).
> >
> >> since I can clearly see the module doesn't exist for either Python 3.4 or 
> >> 3.6.  So this smells like a packaging bug somehow related to upgrading 
> >> from 4.2.  I mean, I can't imagine a brand new install fails this 
> >> blatantly.  Either that or this import error has nothing to do with my 
> >> reinstall failure.
> > It's not a packaging bug. The way 'Add host' works is:
> >
> > 1. The engine creates a tarfile containing otopi + all needed
> > modules/plugins (including host-deploy) and python libraries. This is
> > cached, and you can check it if you want, at:
> > /var/cache/ovirt-engine/ovirt-host-deploy.tar .
> >
> > 2. The engine ssh'es (is that a verb?)
> I think it should be.  I use it all the time though it always sounds
> awkward.  Text became a verb.   Google became a verb.  Why's this one so
> tough?  :-\  Maybe its because it sounds like we trying to hush a crying
> baby.
> >  to the host, copies there the
> > tar file, opens it, and runs it. Then, the code in it runs. You can
> > find in engine.log the (long) command line it runs on the host via
> > ssh.
> >
> > At this point, the code that runs there still can't do anything about
> > packaging. In particular, it can't Require: any specific versions of
> > anything, etc., because it's not installed by rpm but copied from the
> > engine.
> Good to know this!  Just to make sure I read that right, you're saying
> that "host deploy code" that runs on the host is not rpm packaged, but
> when that code runs it is installing rpms.  So once it's done,
> everything that makes a host a host is via rpm, just not the "how" it
> got there.  Am I right?

Exactly.

> >
> > But this is not really relevant. If you think this is a real bug,
> > please (re)open one, and we'll think what we can do. Opinions/ideas
> > are obviously welcome :-)
> Well, it doesn't sound like a bug as much as an expectation.

You are still welcome to file a bug, then.

>  I guess
> when I color outside the lines by adding my own local packages all bets
> are off.  Still, I'm a little surprised how this one manifests since
> this kind of thing doesn't usually matter.  I'm mostly a victim of my
> age and long experience of "if you want that on Linux, build it!"  All
> these fancy automation tools (e.g., install host) are almost more
> difficult than the manual way ... but really that's only when they go
> wrong otherwise I often chuckle at the ease and what it takes to make
> that actually happen.

We definitely try to make oVirt work well for both experienced sysadmins
that "know what they do" and for newbies (or simply way-too-busy-ones)
that want a nice virtualization system but do not know linux too well.

> >
> > Thanks and best regards,
>
> The thanks go to you!  You responses are always helpful and greatly
> appreciated.  The FOSS runs deep in you!

Thanks :-)
-- 
Didi
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