Tony,

Well, thank you for that, but I'm not using openvswitchs, I'm just using
regular bridges. Are you suggesting that I do?

>From what I can see in the interface they have "(experimental)" marked on
them and we'd like to see production with this at some point.

None of my ports are trunking between VLANs - they only have one in
untagged mode - and there's only 2 VLANs here, one per-port.

Thanks again!
cecjr



On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:36 PM Tony Pearce <tony...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A couple of links I found helpful, thought I'd send them over
> http://therandomsecurityguy.com/openvswitch-cheat-sheet/
>
> https://ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/network/openvswitch/native-openvswitch.html
>
> With STP off, if the network is detecting a loop then it will have to
> block a link. With STP on I guess it's allowing the network to remain
> forwarding and the blocking to occur elsewhere. 👍
>
>
> Tony Pearce
>
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 10:12, Curtis E. Combs Jr. <ej.alb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Cool, I can capture some packets tomorrow when I'm in the office and
> > see how that compares...
> >
> > But, yea, it's a hassle to get them to respond IF they do, so the only
> > real options I'm going to have are what I can do with my servers from
> the OS. No
> > physical access. No nice DC guy to help me out.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:06 PM Tony Pearce <tony...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > :) They might be using Cisco's per-vlan spanning tree on the network
> > > side. It is possible to capture the packets coming in from the network
> > > and confirm that.
> > >
> > > Attached screenshot of wireshark for you for reference.
> > >
> > > Glad you're all working :)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Tony Pearce
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 09:52, Curtis E. Combs Jr. <ej.alb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Tony!
> > > >
> > > > I only know the basics of Spanning Tree. At the current moment the
> > > > only way to get migrations to work at all without breaking the whole
> > > > oVirt cluster is to have it on. After changing it according to Paul's
> > > > instruction, it works like it has never worked before. Every
> migration
> > > > event was successful. Whereas before and even at times with the
> > > > cronjob (when vdsm set STP to off between cron runs) the link would
> > > > drop out and oVirt would say that the host was "unresponsive".
> > > >
> > > > It would be too - it wouldn't respond to SSH, ping, arp
> > > > requests...nothing. I never got a good idea of how long this would be
> > > > for, but it would, eventually go away and the link would come back
> > > > online.
> > > >
> > > > I have no access to the hardware. From using tcpdump to get some CDP
> > > > packets, I do know that it's Cisco switches but the IT team here is
> > > > completely unresponsive (they literally ignore our tickets) and the
> > > > co-lo where our servers are hosted won't even pick up the phone for
> > > > anyone but them....
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, this is what I'm going to have to do. The cluster is
> > > > very functional, though. I created around 15 VMs today and
> > > > migrated them from host to host without any problem.
> > > >
> > > > Anything else you'd like me to try? This is currently dev, so I can
> > > > really do anything I want and I can just IPMI reboot the nodes if it
> > > > causes issues...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > cecjr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:37 PM Tony Pearce <tony...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > e.albany,
> > > > >
> > > > > STP is meant to block loops in layer 2. In basic operation, a root
> > > > > bridge is elected which is the root of the tree. This bridge sends,
> > > > > essentially 'hello' messages as multicast packets. The switches
> then
> > > > > detect the loop in the network and block one of the links to
> prevent
> > > > > such things as a broadcast storm.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are different flavours of STP but "STP" usually means the
> hellos
> > > > > are sent over VLAN 1 (or no vlan). Therefore if you have multiple
> > > > > VLANs on links, the hellos are still only sent over VLAN 1 and all
> > > > > VLANs are dealt with that way. Meaning if a link is blocked then
> all
> > > > > VLANs are blocked on that link,
> > > > >
> > > > > Then came the different flavours, one of which is per-vlan STP.
> This
> > > > > allows individual VLANs to be blocked and gives more flexibility.
> > > > >
> > > > > After STP has dealt with the blocking, this link blocking will
> > > > > continue until a change in the network is detected. This is
> detected
> > > > > by the absence of the STP packets or the presence of new STP
> packets
> > > > > where there shouldnt be. When this happens, STP packets are flooded
> > > > > everywhere to discover the new network topology. Ultimately, the
> loop
> > > > > will be blocked again.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that you have two STP versions running in your network and
> > > > > it's causing the issue. An easy test would be to remove the loop
> > > > > manually in the network and leave STP off on the ovirt host. You
> can
> > > > > view the topology as-per the network STP devices by obtaining info
> > > > > from the devices such as bridge priorities etc. What is your
> network
> > > > > hardware?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 08:22, Staniforth, Paul
> > > > > <p.stanifo...@leedsbeckett.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I haven't used FC with oVirt but in the following it shows the
> bridge options available and how to enable Ethtool and FCoE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> https://ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/appe-Custom_Network_Properties.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >                  Paul S.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________________
> > > > > > From: ej.alb...@gmail.com <ej.alb...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > Sent: 17 August 2019 10:25
> > > > > > To: users@ovirt.org
> > > > > > Subject: [ovirt-users] Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello. I have been trying to figure out an issue for a very long
> time.
> > > > > > That issue relates to the ethernet and 10gb fc links that I have
> on my
> > > > > > cluster being disabled any time a migration occurs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe this is because I need to have STP turned on in order
> to
> > > > > > participate with the switch. However, there does not seem to be
> any
> > > > > > way to tell oVirt to stop turning it off! Very frustrating.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After entering a cronjob that enables stp on all bridges every 1
> > > > > > minute, the migration issue disappears....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any way at all to do without this cronjob and set STP
> to be
> > > > > > ON without having to resort to such a silly solution?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here are some details about my systems, if you need it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > selinux is disabled.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [root@swm-02 ~]# rpm -qa | grep ovirt
> > > > > > ovirt-imageio-common-1.5.1-0.el7.x86_64
> > > > > > ovirt-release43-4.3.5.2-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > ovirt-imageio-daemon-1.5.1-0.el7.noarch
> > > > > > ovirt-vmconsole-host-1.0.7-2.el7.noarch
> > > > > > ovirt-hosted-engine-setup-2.3.11-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > ovirt-ansible-hosted-engine-setup-1.0.26-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > python2-ovirt-host-deploy-1.8.0-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > ovirt-ansible-engine-setup-1.1.9-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > python2-ovirt-setup-lib-1.2.0-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > cockpit-machines-ovirt-195.1-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > ovirt-hosted-engine-ha-2.3.3-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > ovirt-vmconsole-1.0.7-2.el7.noarch
> > > > > > cockpit-ovirt-dashboard-0.13.5-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > ovirt-provider-ovn-driver-1.2.22-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > ovirt-host-deploy-common-1.8.0-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > ovirt-host-4.3.4-1.el7.x86_64
> > > > > > python-ovirt-engine-sdk4-4.3.2-2.el7.x86_64
> > > > > > ovirt-host-dependencies-4.3.4-1.el7.x86_64
> > > > > > ovirt-ansible-repositories-1.1.5-1.el7.noarch
> > > > > > [root@swm-02 ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release
> > > > > > CentOS Linux release 7.6.1810 (Core)
> > > > > > [root@swm-02 ~]# uname -r
> > > > > > 3.10.0-957.27.2.el7.x86_64
> > > > > > You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root
> > > > > > [root@swm-02 ~]# ip a
> > > > > > 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state
> UNKNOWN
> > > > > > group default qlen 1000
> > > > > >     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
> > > > > >     inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
> > > > > >        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> > > > > > 2: em1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq
> master
> > > > > > test state UP group default qlen 1000
> > > > > >     link/ether d4:ae:52:8d:50:48 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> > > > > > 3: em2: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN
> group
> > > > > > default qlen 1000
> > > > > >     link/ether d4:ae:52:8d:50:49 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> > > > > > 4: p1p1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq
> master
> > > > > > ovirtmgmt state UP group default qlen 1000
> > > > > >     link/ether 90:e2:ba:1e:14:80 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> > > > > > 5: p1p2: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN
> group
> > > > > > default qlen 1000
> > > > > >     link/ether 90:e2:ba:1e:14:81 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> > > > > > 6: ovs-system: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state
> DOWN
> > > > > > group default qlen 1000
> > > > > >     link/ether a2:b8:d6:e8:b3:d8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> > > > > > 7: br-int: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN
> group
> > > > > > default qlen 1000
> > > > > >     link/ether 96:a0:c1:4a:45:4b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> > > > > > 25: test: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc
> noqueue
> > > > > > state UP group default qlen 1000
> > > > > >     link/ether d4:ae:52:8d:50:48 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> > > > > >     inet 10.15.11.21/24 brd 10.15.11.255 scope global test
> > > > > >        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> > > > > > 26: ovirtmgmt: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc
> > > > > > noqueue state UP group default qlen 1000
> > > > > >     link/ether 90:e2:ba:1e:14:80 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> > > > > >     inet 10.15.28.31/24 brd 10.15.28.255 scope global ovirtmgmt
> > > > > >        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> > > > > > 27: ;vdsmdummy;: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state
> DOWN
> > > > > > group default qlen 1000
> > > > > >     link/ether 62:e5:e5:07:99:eb brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> > > > > > 29: vnet0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq
> master
> > > > > > ovirtmgmt state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
> > > > > >     link/ether fe:6f:9c:95:00:02 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> > > > > > [root@swm-02 ~]# free -m
> > > > > >               total        used        free      shared
> buff/cache   available
> > > > > > Mem:          64413        1873       61804           9
>  735       62062
> > > > > > Swap:         16383           0       16383
> > > > > > [root@swm-02 ~]# free -h
> > > > > >               total        used        free      shared
> buff/cache   available
> > > > > > Mem:            62G        1.8G         60G        9.5M
> 735M         60G
> > > > > > Swap:           15G          0B         15G
> > > > > > [root@swm-02 ~]# ls
> > > > > > ls                  lsb_release         lshw
> lslocks
> > > > > >          lsmod               lspci               lssubsys
> > > > > > lsusb.py
> > > > > > lsattr              lscgroup            lsinitrd
> lslogins
> > > > > >          lsns                lss16toppm
> lstopo-no-graphics
> > > > > > lsblk               lscpu               lsipc               lsmem
> > > > > >          lsof                lsscsi              lsusb
> > > > > > [root@swm-02 ~]# lscpu
> > > > > > Architecture:          x86_64
> > > > > > CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
> > > > > > Byte Order:            Little Endian
> > > > > > CPU(s):                16
> > > > > > On-line CPU(s) list:   0-15
> > > > > > Thread(s) per core:    2
> > > > > > Core(s) per socket:    4
> > > > > > Socket(s):             2
> > > > > > NUMA node(s):          2
> > > > > > Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
> > > > > > CPU family:            6
> > > > > > Model:                 44
> > > > > > Model name:            Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X5672  @
> 3.20GHz
> > > > > > Stepping:              2
> > > > > > CPU MHz:               3192.064
> > > > > > BogoMIPS:              6384.12
> > > > > > Virtualization:        VT-x
> > > > > > L1d cache:             32K
> > > > > > L1i cache:             32K
> > > > > > L2 cache:              256K
> > > > > > L3 cache:              12288K
> > > > > > NUMA node0 CPU(s):     0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14
> > > > > > NUMA node1 CPU(s):     1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15
> > > > > > Flags:                 fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic
> sep
> > > > > > mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2
> ss ht
> > > > > > tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon
> pebs bts
> > > > > > rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni
> pclmulqdq
> > > > > > dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid
> dca
> > > > > > sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes lahf_lm ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow
> vnmi
> > > > > > flexpriority ept vpid dtherm ida arat spec_ctrl intel_stibp
> flush_l1d
> > > > > > [root@swm-02 ~]#
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