On 19/08/2020 10:41, Nir Soffer wrote:
>> There is no warning the method was deprecated and will be missing 
>> functionality.
>>
>> The steps detailed on the alt install page are for the all-in-one running 
>> engine-setup.
>>
>> It's also worth noting this works fine in;
>>
>> Version 4.3.1.1-1.el7
>>
>> but not in;
>>
>> Version 4.4.1.10-1.el8
>>
>> (el8 has the change in imageio daemons)
>>
>> The alternate install method is still useful to have, but i think a red 
>> warning about all-in-one on el8 on that page would be good.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Michael Jones
> Micheal, can you file a bug for this?
>
> If you have a good use case for all-in-one deployment (not using
> hosted engine), please explain
> it in the bug.
>
> Personally I think simple all-in-one deployment without the complexity
> of hosted engine is better,
> and we should keep it, but for this we need to teach engine to handle
> the case when the proxy
> and the daemon are the same server.
>
> In this case engine will not try to setup a proxy ticket, and image
> transfer would work directly
> with the host daemon.
>
> I'm not very optimistic that we will support this again, since this
> feature is not needed for RHV
> customers, but for oVirt this makes sense.
>
> Nir
>
Yes, I can file a bug,

The main usage / setup's I have are;

on-prem installs:

- hosted engine
- gluster
- high availiblity
- internal ip address
- easy great...

dedicated host provider for example OVH single machine:

- alternate install
- all-in-one

The main reason for the separation is that using the cockpit install /
hosted engine install causes problems with ip allocations;

cockpit method requires 1x ip for host, and 1x ip for engine vm, and
both ip must be in the same subnet...

applying internal ip would cut off access, and to make it even harder,
getting public ip blocks didn't work as the box main ip wouldn't be in
the same subnet, adding nic alias ip doesn't work either (fail on
install due to failing to setup ovirtmgmt network).

atm, i'll struggle with changing the machine's main ip to be one of the
same subnet with the engine one... (currently causes host to be taken
offline due to hosting provider, health checks)

provided i can change the host primary ip to be one of the OVH failover
ip allocated in a block... i will be able to install using the cockpit.

and after the install i can setup internal ip with the network tag.

Kind Regards,

Mike

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