Il giorno ven 11 dic 2020 alle ore 16:22 Charles Kozler < char...@fixflyer.com> ha scritto:
> What goes in to oVirt goes in to RHV if I understand correctly, right? If > so sorry, I meant upstream > > If I am understanding how all of this is changing correctly then this move > to stream will only serve to benefit oVirt as it speeds up the pace of > CentOS in the ecosystem and therefore potentially won't have breaking > changes dependent and waiting on RHEL to release so CentOS can be built > > If I remember correctly (and I could be confusing this with another > application), oVirt requires CentOS 7.3 or higher right? > oVirt 4.4.3 Requires CentOS 8.2 or higher but without 8.3 and Advanced Virtualization 8.3 you're going to have cluster level 4.5 not available. > > > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:08 AM Sandro Bonazzola <sbona...@redhat.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> Il giorno ven 11 dic 2020 alle ore 15:49 Charles Kozler < >> char...@fixflyer.com> ha scritto: >> >>> CentOS was the downstream of RHEL but has now become the upstream >>> >>> I guess oVirt was always downstream as well - yes? >>> >> >> No. oVirt is oVirt. It's downstream to nothing. >> And it used to work and being used on Fedora which is upstream to RHEL >> and to CentOS Stream. >> Fedora moved just way too fast and we had to drop the effort trying to >> keep the pace: https://blogs.ovirt.org/2020/05/ovirt-and-fedora/ >> With CentOS Stream we are just moving the point when CentOS breaks oVirt. >> Instead to wait a couple of months after RHEL release (CentOS 8.3 just >> broke oVirt: we can't build oVirt Node and oVirt appliance anymore due to a >> bug in lorax package, it's preventing oVirt 4.4.4 to be released because >> advanced virtualization build is missing a dependency which is in RHEL but >> not in CentOS due to a bug in CentOS compose system) we'll have the fix in >> oVirt a month before RHEL will be released. >> >> >> >>> >>> If so then yes, I can't see much changing in the ways of oVirt >>> >> >> As far as I can tell by looking at CentOS 8.3, it will change in >> something better. >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:59 AM Sandro Bonazzola <sbona...@redhat.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Il giorno gio 10 dic 2020 alle ore 21:51 Charles Kozler < >>>> char...@fixflyer.com> ha scritto: >>>> >>>>> I guess this is probably a question for all current open source >>>>> projects that red hat runs but - >>>>> >>>>> Does this mean oVirt will effectively become a rolling release type >>>>> situation as well? >>>>> >>>> >>>> There's no plan to make oVirt a rolling release. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> How exactly is oVirt going to stay open source and stay in cadence >>>>> with all the other updates happening around it on packages/etc that it >>>>> depends on if the streams are rolling release? Do they now need to fork >>>>> every piece of dependency? >>>>> >>>> >>>> We are going to test regularly oVirt on CentOS Stream, releasing oVirt >>>> Node and oVirt appliance after testing them, without any difference to what >>>> we are doing right now with CentOS Linux. >>>> Any raised issue will be handled as usual. >>>> >>>> What exactly does this mean for oVirt going forward and its overall >>>>> stability? >>>>> >>>> >>>> oVirt plans about CentOS Stream have been communicated one year ago >>>> here: https://blogs.ovirt.org/2019/09/ovirt-and-centos-stream/ >>>> >>>> That said, please note that oVirt documentation mentions "Enterprise >>>> Linux" almost everywhere and not explicitly CentOS Linux. >>>> As far as I can tell any RHEL binary compatible rebuild should just >>>> work with oVirt despite I would recommend to follow what will be done >>>> within oVirt Node and oVirt Appliance. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Notice to Recipient*: https://www.fixflyer.com/disclaimer >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org >>>>> Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html >>>>> oVirt Code of Conduct: >>>>> https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ >>>>> List Archives: >>>>> https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/7IUWGES2IG4BELLUPMYGEKN3GC6XVCHA/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Sandro Bonazzola >>>> >>>> MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV >>>> >>>> Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> >>>> >>>> sbona...@redhat.com >>>> <https://www.redhat.com/> >>>> >>>> *Red Hat respects your work life balance. 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