> On 31 Mar 2016, at 12:40, John Hewson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> -- John
> On 30 Mar 2016, at 07:18, Costas Stergiou <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>> PDF/A is for archiving, and while PDF/A-2 does support JPEG 2000, it's not
>> a good choice for an archival format, because most JPEG 2000 implementations
>> are broken in some way and many PDF viewers cannot correctly view such
>> files. It was essentially a failure as a file format and will be deprecated
>> in PDF 2.0. If the goal of archiving with PDF/A is to produce reliable
>> files, JPEG 2000 conflicts with that goal.
>> 
>> This is VERY interesting information, I have two questions, if you know:
>> 1. Do you have a link to the PDF 2.0 spec where it says that JPEG2000 will
>> be deprecated?
> 
> Apparently I'm wrong about this, the PDF 2.0 spec is still going through 
> working groups so I only hear rumours. Some things are definitely getting 
> deprecated, such as FDF forms!

Of course what I meant to say was XFA, not FDF!

> 
>> 2. What would be your suggestion for non-lossy compression for color images
>> in PDF files? I know LZW is an answer, but the compression is much worst
>> than JPEG2000.
> 
> First of all I'd check if a maximum-quality JPEG isn't good enough. It 
> usually is. If you really need lossless (and as you're archiving you might 
> well do) then PNG is simple and reliable. There are ways to losslessly 
> optimise the colour palette to reduce file size a bit. Also make sure you use 
> the right colour space - a b&w raster is 1/3 the size of an RGB one.
> 
>> Can you think of a solution that brings a compression close
>> to that of JPEG2000 without losing information?
> 
> No, though it does depend on what's in your images. Black and white line art 
> will compress well with pretty much any approach - photographs not so much. 
> If you have 1-bit images (literally black and white) then your job is 
> particularly easy.
> 
>> And of course I am not
>> considering re-encoding a JPEG image, this is pointless as you mentioned.
> 
> Ok, good!
> 
>> By the way: I read in the spec that JPEG2000 also works for b&w images, yet
>> adobe acrobat cannot read b&w jpeg2000 images encoded with jai... don't know
>> if this is because of jai or because of acrobat. Any idea?
> 
> Off the top of my head I don't know but PDF does allow JPX images to embed 
> their own colour space. PDF only supports the "baseline" JPX features - so 
> you might want to check if that includes b&w.
> 
> -- John
> 
>> Costas
>> 
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