Tilman, > However the standard 14 type 1 helvetica isn't embedded anyway so maybe this is moot.
Exactly, I want the standard type 1 helvetica which isn't embedded, instead of a proprietary font. Please see my attached sketch. For my app, I have two choices: 1. Detect fonts like Arial and reject the template PDF: "Sorry, your PDF cannot be used as a template because it contains the proprietary font %s!" 2. "Oh, contains Arial! But: No problem! I know that font and I'll replace that for you by the default Helvetica which doesn't have to be embedded." For unknown fonts other than Arial or Times New Roman, I'd have to go with option (1) anyway. LibreOffice has a feature that points into the same direction: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/09/08/libreoffice-tt-replacing-microsoft-fonts/ Yours, Reg
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