crap - hit "send" by accident. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Giusti" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: "Qpid Dev" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:06:03 PM > Subject: Re: Qpid packages for Ubuntu, was Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Qpid > CPP 0.34 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matt Broadstone" <[email protected]> > > To: "users" <[email protected]> > > Cc: "Qpid Dev" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:46:50 AM > > Subject: Re: Qpid packages for Ubuntu, was Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Qpid > > CPP 0.34 > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Ken Giusti <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Matt Broadstone" <[email protected]> > > > > To: "Ken Giusti" <[email protected]> > > > > Cc: [email protected], "Qpid Dev" <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 12:10:24 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Qpid packages for Ubuntu, was Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release > > > Qpid CPP 0.34 > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 1, 2015, Ken Giusti <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Matt, > > > > > > > > > > As you pointed out, and in case others are unaware, Darryl Pierce > > > > > has > > > > > created a Personal Package Archive containing various QPID packages > > > > > for > > > > > ubuntu users: > > > > > > > > > > https://launchpad.net/~qpid > > > > > > > > > > However, I'm not sure of Darryl's availability for keeping this up to > > > date > > > > > - which explains why there hasn't been an update for 0.34. > > > > > > > > > > While I'm also a member of this PPA, I have no idea how to build > > > packages > > > > > for ubuntu :( > > > > > > > > > > If someone's willing to help out by building these packages - I can > > > > > add > > > > > them to the membership list. > > > > > > > > > > -K > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ken, > > > > I have incredibly limited experience with building these packages, but > > > was > > > > able to build (and update) Daryls packages previously. I gather that > > > > the > > > > issue with timing for previous releases revolved around a Debian > > > > mentor? > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if this is feasible, but I've seen more successful Ubuntu > > > > packaging efforts from e.g. rethinkdb and rabbitmq. In each of these > > > cases > > > > the project hosts the package repo themselves, affording them freedom > > > > to > > > > release when they want, and (at least in rabbitmqs case) completely > > > > automate the creation of the packages. > > > > > > > > I would definitely love to have an in depth conversation about up to > > > > date > > > > qpid packages, as we depend upon them. > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm also very keen on having the latest QPID releases easily available > > > for > > > Ubuntu. My work on Openstack would benefit from having the latest qpidd > > > and proton available as pre-build packages. > > > > > > While having qpid and proton packages in the official Debian and ubuntu > > > distros would be ideal, I'm not sure that should be our immediate goal. > > > Darryl spend a lot of time trying to get newer packages into Debian with > > > little to show for it. Personally, I don't have the bandwidth to take > > > that > > > on. But, more importantly, those distros are very slow to adopt newer > > > releases (especially Debian). While this is a Good Thing for Debian and > > > Ubuntu LTS users, I don't think it fits well with the QPID project's > > > release cadence. > > > > > > Personally, I much prefer simply having a well maintained Launchpad PPA > > > for the Qpid project, and providing a link to it on the Qpid Downloads > > > page. Darryl has set up 2 PPAs for QPID: one for testing pre-released > > > packages and one for proper releases. Users who want to track the latest > > > can add the stable PPA to their system's repositories via > > > apt-add-repository. Users who would rather use a particular release can > > > simply download it via the web page. > > > > > > That said, it requires work to maintain that PPA. Packages would need to > > > be built (for what architectures?) for each release candidate as well as > > > for the final release. I suspect that's a non-trivial time and effort > > > commitment. > > > > > > -K > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > I think you misunderstood what I was proposing. I don't think it's likely > > that these packages are going to get into ubuntu/debian official repos any > > time soon (afaict getting that to happen is basically a full time job! and > > closed atm to boot). I was saying that RabbitMQ, for example, as part of > > their release process runs a set of scripts that automatically generates > > packages and updates their self-hosted PPA (I imagine RethinkDB is also > > doing this). > > > > Ah, gotcha - sorry. I'm in complete agreement with you on this one. > > > > If something like that were possible for QPID that would be fantastic, as > > we might be able to script away the entire ordeal - thus reducing human > > bandwidth requirements here. I suppose I was inquiring as to whether that's > > something the project would be interested in (or even has the resources > > for)? > > > > +1 > > We have something slightly analogous in the qpid c++ broker for building the > windows installer: > >
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/qpid/trunk/qpid/packaging/windows/ We should keep a set of scripts in the source tree for building .debs (as well as rpms, etc). > > Outside of that, I wrote a small guide in an issue of the debian packaging > > repo for proton (see: > > https://github.com/mcpierce/debian-qpid-proton/issues/4). Perhaps we could > > work together with Darryl to put together a more complete release guide, > > and begin to share the responsibility? > > > > Cheers, > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Matt Broadstone" <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > > > > > To: "users" <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:59:35 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Qpid CPP 0.34 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Gordon Sim <[email protected] > > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 06/29/2015 02:19 PM, Robbie Gemmell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> This vote is now closed. There were 6 binding +1 votes, with no > > > other > > > > > > >> votes received. The vote has passed. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I will add the files to the dist release svn repo. The website > > > will be > > > > > > >> updated later after the artifacts have had time to sync to the > > > > > mirrors. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for standing in as the release manager for this, Robbie! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fantastics news! Is there any idea yet when the qpid-testing > > > > > > packages > > > > > will > > > > > > be updated to 0.34 in Darryl's ubuntu PPA? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > -K > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -K > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > -- > -K > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > -- -K --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
