> so doing so at this point might not outweigh the effort required.

That's really what triggered this train of thought.  We'd like to separate
out the client and the broker, however at this point it its life the 0-x
client is really only receiving maintenance changes, and they are anyway
being applied to the 6.1.x branch (and 6.0.x branch).  As such I think it
might be easier all round if we just say that the 7.x broker is verified
against the 6.1.x client.  And for 7.0.x we can get rid of the client (and
common) from the Qpid for Java release.

-- Rob


On 10 January 2017 at 12:38, Robbie Gemmell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I'd maybe suggest splitting the 0-x client out on its own instead
> rather than just leaving it as part of 6.1.x, though thats not
> necessarily as simple as it sounds which is likely why it hasn't been
> done already, so doing so at this point might not outweigh the effort
> required.
>
> On 10 January 2017 at 11:05, Rob Godfrey <[email protected]> wrote:
> > +1 To removing Java 7 support in the Broker for Java and the JMS client.
> >
> > On the AMQP 0-x JMS client my inclination is to say that we actually
> remove
> > this client from future feature releases.  Maintenance releases on the
> > 6.1.x branch will continue to support Java 7 (and 8, of course), but
> going
> > forward the AMQP 1.0 JMS client should be the only supported JMS library.
> > (Since I don't think anyone is actually planning on adding any features
> to
> > the 0-x client, I don't think this is actually as big a deal as it might
> > initially sound - we'd verify the compatibility between the 7.0 Broker
> and
> > the v6.x AMQP 0-x JMS client, of course)
> >
> > -- Rob
> >
> > On 10 January 2017 at 10:08, Lorenz Quack <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >> The next Qpid Broker for Java is probably going to be 7.0 (i.e., a major
> >> release) so now is as good a time as any.
> >>
> >> Some dates for reference [1]:
> >> Java Version    First Release    End of Public Updates
> >> 7                Jul 2011            Apr 2015
> >> 8                Mar 2014            Sep 2017 or later
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 09/01/17 22:28, Robbie Gemmell wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'd like to propose dropping support for Java 7 in the broker and both
> >>> JMS clients in their next significant new releases.
> >>>
> >>> Almost a year ago, there was a proposal around preparing to end
> >>> support for Java 7 in the broker and AMQP 0-x JMS client, with the the
> >>> idea of doing a ~Q3 2016 major release in which the broker required
> >>> Java 8, followed by a minor follow-up release in 2017 that then
> >>> dropped support for the client. I believe both still currently retain
> >>> support for Java 7.
> >>>
> >>> I agreed with the proposal and suggested something similar made sense
> >>> for the AMQP 1.0 JMS client, and I think it is time we made that
> >>> change. I think it would be appropriate to do so in concert with the
> >>> 0.20.0 release the client is now ready for, and plan to do so unless
> >>> convinced otherwise.
> >>>
> >>> While on the Java 7 subject: I'm a little more neutral about Proton-J,
> >>> and wouldn't be that opposed to it continuing to for a bit longer,
> >>> although probably not all that long, as the majority of builds I know
> >>> of personally that depend on it already require Java 8, some doing so
> >>> before Proton even dropped its Java 6 support in 2015 (after Java 7
> >>> went EOL).
> >>>
> >>> Robbie
> >>>
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