Rob,

You are right I will merge the changes committed to fix QPID-8223 into
7.0.x as well.

Alex

On 7 August 2018 at 10:53, Rob Godfrey <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Alex...are you planning on putting QPID-8223 in that too... I'm sure
> Mike doesn't care about that one, but I do :-)
>
> -- Rob
>
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2018, 10:44 Oleksandr Rudyy, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I will merge Rob's fix into 7.0.x branch for inclusion into 7.0.7 release.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Alex
>>
>> On 6 August 2018 at 20:03, Dyslin, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Rob,
>> >
>> > I'm running with your fixed jar file now, and passed the 4GB boundary,
>> currently at 5.11 GB, so your fix seems to work!
>> >
>> > Thanks so much for your quick response!  We really appreciate it.
>> >
>> > We will watch for the next release that has this fix in it.  Do you
>> think it will be in 7.0.7?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Rob Godfrey [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 10:25 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Cc: Mears, David B <[email protected]>; Herren, Elaine <
>> [email protected]>; Rao, Shobha (NonStop) <[email protected]
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: Java Broker (7.0.6) stops delivering queue/consumer
>> messages after 4 GB data transfer
>> >
>> > Hi Mike,
>> > On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 18:23, Dyslin, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Rob,
>> >>
>> >> I created JIRA QPID-8225 with Title "Java Broker (7.0.6) stops
>> >> delivering queue/consumer messages after 4 GB data transfer".
>> >>
>> >> The log you requested is attached to the JIRA.
>> >>
>> >> The log contains the connection startup, 10 messages flowing (2 every
>> >> 10 seconds), then connection close.  It does not contain when message
>> >> flow stopped (credit exhausted?).  I can get that for you if you like.
>> >>
>> >> We did see this in the log:
>> >>
>> >> 2018-08-06 07:57:34,100 DEBUG [IO-/15.252.32.148:43266]
>> >> (o.a.q.s.p.v.ServerConnection) - RECV: [conn:6cd338b5] ch=1
>> >> MessageSetFlowMode(destination=dsaqp15, flowMode=CREDIT)
>> >> 2018-08-06 07:57:34,102 DEBUG [IO-/15.252.32.148:43266]
>> >> (o.a.q.s.p.v.ServerConnection) - RECV: [conn:6cd338b5] ch=1
>> >> MessageFlow(destination=dsaqp15, unit=MESSAGE, value=4294967295)
>> >> 2018-08-06 07:57:34,102 DEBUG [IO-/15.252.32.148:43266]
>> >> (o.a.q.s.p.v.ServerConnection) - RECV: [conn:6cd338b5] ch=1
>> >> MessageFlow(destination=dsaqp15, unit=BYTE, value=4294967295)
>> >>
>> >> And we never saw anything that looked like credit was being reset by
>> >> the consumer.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > OK - this actually  matches up with what I suspected looking more deeply
>> at the code this morning.  The value 4294967295 is supposed to be a magic
>> number meaning "infinite" credit, however the Java Broker is mishandling
>> this, expecting it to be passed as -1, whereas in fact a lower layer in the
>> code is instead passing the value as 4294967295 in a signed 64bit value.  I
>> just committed a fix to master, but I'm not sure when that might be
>> released as a new version.
>> >
>> >
>> >> So, perhaps the 4 GB credit simply is all used up and messages stop
>> >> flowing.
>> >>
>> >> How do we change FlowMode to OFF, or if that is not possible, how do
>> >> we reset our credit back to 4 GB in the QPID C++ API?
>> >>
>> >>
>> > So, I'm not familiar with the C++ API, if there were an obvious way to
>> switch from "credit" mode to "window" mode (which is the protocol default)
>> then that would likely work around the problem.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Since we don't see any of our code setting any kind of flow control
>> >> option, is the C++ API sending flow control default setting to the
>> >> broker, or is the broker setting flow control default because the
>> >> producer has not specified any flow control?  If the latter, then
>> >> perhaps the C++ and Java brokers have different flow control defaults.
>> >> If the former, then C++ broker and the java broker are not
>> >> implementing specified the flow control in the same way.
>> >>
>> >> Again, our original code was only tested with C++ brokers.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Yeah - sadly this is a Java Broker bug you've discovered.  I've uploaded
>> a jar file with the proposed fix into the JIRA (just replace the existing
>> jar of the same name in lib/broker-plugins).  Alternatively you can build
>> this yourself by doing the following:
>> >
>> > git clone https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid-broker-j.git
>> >
>> > cd qpid-broker-j/
>> >
>> > git checkout 7.0.6
>> >
>> > git cherry-pick cf40fdea39d9633702ee286d94e950a19ec7be74
>> > mvn package
>> >
>> >  Apologies you've run into this :-(  I think most clients are using
>> window, or non-infinite credit - that's the only reason I can think that
>> this has not been spotted before.
>> >
>> > If you give the jar a try and it works (or doesn't work) for you, please
>> let us know.
>> >
>> > -- Rob
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Rob Godfrey [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 3:34 PM
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> Cc: Mears, David B <[email protected]>; Herren, Elaine <
>> >> [email protected]>; Rao, Shobha (NonStop)
>> >> <[email protected]
>> >> >
>> >> Subject: Re: Java Broker (7.0.6) stops delivering queue/consumer
>> >> messages after 4 GB data transfer
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 at 00:11, Dyslin, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Rob,
>> >> >
>> >> > We do not know how our consumer is managing credit, or anything
>> >> > about credit flow, but have started looking for information on this.
>> >> > It sounds like the right place to look.  If we could figure out how
>> >> > to turn off the flow control limits, that may do it.  We inherited
>> >> > most of this code, and the original authors of the code are long
>> >> > gone, so we don't have the experience of putting it all together.
>> >> > Perhaps the defaults for this credit flow is different between the
>> >> > C++ and Java
>> >> brokers.
>> >> >
>> >> > OK, we'll try to figure out how to get protocol logging turned on
>> >> > and get a log file to look at.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Thanks - I had a quick look at the Java Broker code for managing
>> >> credit and didn't immediately see any obvious errors that would hit a
>> >> properly functioning client, *however* it does look like that if the
>> >> client is improperly managing credit there would be an overflow error
>> >> where a value that should be an unsigned integral value (the amount of
>> >> remaining credit) will turn negative.  The broker is storing the
>> >> amount of outstanding credit as a (signed) Java long value.  AMQP 0-10
>> >> defines the message.flow command as "This command controls the flow of
>> message data to a given destination.
>> >> It is used by the recipient of messages to dynamically match the
>> >> incoming rate of message flow to its processing or forwarding
>> >> capacity. Upon receipt of this command, the sender must add "value"
>> >> number of the specified unit to the available credit balance for the
>> >> specified destination."  So if the client is repeatedly adding more
>> >> credit than it needs the stored "limit" in the broker might overflow
>> >> and turn negative.  At this point the broker would stop sending
>> messages.
>> >>
>> >> -- Rob
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Mike
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Rob Godfrey [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >> > Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 11:11 AM
>> >> > To: [email protected]
>> >> > Cc: Mears, David B <[email protected]>; Herren, Elaine <
>> >> > [email protected]>; Rao, Shobha (NonStop)
>> >> > <[email protected]
>> >> > >
>> >> > Subject: Re: Java Broker (7.0.6) stops delivering queue/consumer
>> >> > messages after 4 GB data transfer
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 19:18, Dyslin, Mike <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Rob,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Our consumer client version is 1.37:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >    bash 0 3: rpm -qa | grep -i qpid
>> >> > >    qpid-cpp-client-devel-1.37.0-1.el7.x86_64
>> >> > >    python-qpid-1.37.0-1.el7.noarch
>> >> > >    qpid-qmf-1.37.0-1.el7.x86_64
>> >> > >    qpid-cpp-client-1.37.0-1.el7.x86_64
>> >> > >    python-qpid-qmf-1.37.0-1.el7.x86_64
>> >> > >    qpid-cpp-server-1.37.0-1.el7.x86_64
>> >> > >    qpid-proton-c-0.18.1-1.el7.x86_64
>> >> > >    qpid-tools-1.37.0-1.el7.noarch
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Our producer client version is 6.1.5:
>> >> > >     -rw-r--r--    1 NSDA.NSDA          NSDA      570873 Jul 26 15:42
>> >> > > qpid-client-6.1.5.jar
>> >> > >     -rw-r--r--    1 NSDA.NSDA          NSDA      864493 Jul 26 15:42
>> >> > > qpid-common-6.1.5.jar
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Both producer and consumer clients use AMQP_0_10 protocol.
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > OK - so my assumption here is that there is some issue in the
>> >> > management of credit in the broker (or possibly in the client).
>> >> > AMQP
>> >> > 0-10 has two distinct credit flow modes "credit" and "window" and
>> >> > also allows the consumer to separately set limits for both "message"
>> >> > and
>> >> "byte" credit.
>> >> > I'm not very familiar with the C++ API, but do you know how your
>> >> > consumer is managing credit?
>> >> >
>> >> > One thing that would be very helpful in trying to diagnose this
>> >> > problem is getting protocol logging for the consumer (at least for
>> >> > the start of the consumer where it sets up the credit flow mode, and
>> >> > towards the end where it would be interesting to see the credit
>> >> > being allocated just before message flow stops).
>> >> >
>> >> > -- Rob
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks for your assistance,
>> >> > > Mike
>> >> > >
>> >> > > FYI - There may be a typo on the past releases web page.  I
>> >> > > believe
>> >> > "2017"
>> >> > > should be "2018" in "Qpid JMS AMQP 0-x 6.3.2, July 2017".  URL:
>> >> > > https://qpid.apache.org/releases/index.html#past-releases
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > From: Rob Godfrey [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >> > > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 5:57 PM
>> >> > > To: [email protected]
>> >> > > Cc: Mears, David B <[email protected]>; Herren, Elaine <
>> >> > > [email protected]>; Rao, Shobha (NonStop)
>> >> > > <[email protected]
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > Subject: Re: Java Broker (7.0.6) stops delivering queue/consumer
>> >> > > messages after 4 GB data transfer
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Hi Mike,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 01:25, Dyslin, Mike <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > This is my first submit to this email group.  Hopefully this is
>> >> > > > the correct place to post this problem.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > This is exactly the right place to post this problem.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > We are running a continuous stream of message (about 5K each)
>> >> > > > from producer to consumer over a single java broker queue at a
>> >> > > > rate of about 600 messages/second.  Outbound message flow stops
>> >> > > > after transferring 4 GB of message data (about 770,000 messages
>> >> > > > in 25 minutes).  The Web Management Console page for our
>> >> > > > consumer connection
>> >> > > shows the total "Outbound Bytes"
>> >> > > > growing steadily until it reaches 4.0 GB and stops with "Last
>> >> > > > I/O
>> >> time"
>> >> > > > unchanging thereafter.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > After outbound messages stop:
>> >> > > > Inbound messages continue on the producer connection (well past
>> >> > > > 4.0
>> >> > > > GB) and are kept in the queue until they expire with a
>> >> > > > time-to-live value of 3 minutes.  The queue grows until is
>> >> > > > stabilizes with a steady
>> >> > > > 600 m/s inbound, and 600 m/s expiring and being deleted from the
>> >> > > > queue (as expected).  The Web Management Console shows that the
>> >> > > > consumer connection remains open and is a consumer on the queue,
>> >> > > > and the queue shows the connection as a consumer on the queue.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > If I run the exact same test replacing the Java Broker with a
>> >> > > > C++ broker (1.37.0), message flow continues well past the 4 GB
>> barrier.
>> >> > > > I kept it running for about 17 hours reaching about 37 million
>> >> > > > messages, about 180 GB data transferred on the queue.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Since the only difference seems to be the broker, this seems to
>> >> > > > point to a problem with the Java Broker, and not issues with our
>> >> > > > producer, consumer or network issues.  Could there be some
>> >> > > > problem with our java broker configuration that would explain
>> this behaviour?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Unfortunately this sounds like it may be a bug in the Java Broker
>> >> > > :-(
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Has anyone out there experienced more than 4 GB of outbound data
>> >> > > > on a single java broker connection or queue?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > Can you confirm which client you are using, and which version of
>> >> > > AMQP is in use (as you have identified I don't expect this to be a
>> >> > > client problem, but knowing the client will help us track down the
>> >> > > issue in the
>> >> > broker)?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Any help would be appreciated.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Other comments/observations:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I do not know if the 4 GB barrier is associated with the
>> >> > > > connection and/or the queue because all our message traffic is
>> >> > > > over one consumer connection and one queue.  I could determine
>> >> > > > this by changing our consumer code to spread message traffic
>> >> > > > over one connection and multiple
>> >> > > queues.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > We are using the heartbeat feature with a 5 minute timeout.  Since
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > > connection stays open beyond the 5 minute timeout after the
>> >> > > > messages stop, I assume the heartbeat messages are still being
>> >> > > > sent between consumer and broker, indicating that the consumer
>> >> > > > and broker are able to communicate over the socket.  It has been
>> >> > > > awhile since I have tested that the heartbeat feature is working
>> >> correctly.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > If I close the consumer connection from the Web Management
>> >> > > > Console, the broker deletes the queue (I believe) and our
>> >> > > > consumer detects the closed connection, establishes a new
>> >> > > > connection and new queue, and messages start flowing again until
>> >> > > > . . . we reach the 4 GB barrier and messages stop being delivered
>> once again.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > We have run with the Java Broker on both Linux (RHEL 7.4) and
>> >> > > > proprietary NonStop POSIX platform with the same results.
>> >> > > > Unfortunately, the C++ broker is not yet an option on the
>> >> > > > NonStop POSIX platform where we require the broker to be.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > Hopefully we can quickly track down the issue in the Java Broker
>> >> > > and push out a fix,
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Thanks,
>> >> > > > Mike
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > Apologies you've run into this issue, Rob
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
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