On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 2:21 PM Ekta Awasthi
<ekta.awas...@theodpcorp.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hello Ted,
>
> I did go through both the qpid logs and saw below.
>
> I could see when the second qpid initiated the extra consumer link on
> 1/9/2023 at 4.24 PM EST there were 2775 events stating, "Auto Link
> deactivated" and then shortly after I could see about 5550 events stating
> "Auto Link Activated" That is exactly double the links which second qpid
> activated and therefore we could see two consumer link coming from qpid-2
> and 1 consumer link from qpid-1 for each queue.
>
> Why it activated/created double the links for all the queues is out of my
> mind and that too in the middle of the day when there was no maintenance,
> or anything was happening.
>

Deactivation happens when:
A) The configuration is removed (not the case here)
B) The connection to the broker is dropped

Check that log to see if the deactivations are a result of a dropped
connection to the broker.

Similarly, the activations occur as a result of a new connection being
established with the broker.

Ask yourself: How many auto-links do you expect to have?  How many
connections do you expect to see auto-links on?  Do you see multiple
activations of the same auto-link on the same connection?


>
> Why all of the sudden it deactivated all the links it was attached to? do
> we know what triggered that?
>
> Ekta Awasthi,
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> ________________________________
> From: Ted Ross <tr...@redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 4:32 PM
> To: Ekta Awasthi <ekta.awas...@theodpcorp.com>
> Cc: users@qpid.apache.org <users@qpid.apache.org>; Ajit Tathawade
> (CompuCom) <ajit.tathaw...@officedepot.com>; Nilesh Khokale (Contractor) <
> nilesh.khok...@officedepot.com>; EAIOpsSupport <
> eaiopssupp...@officedepot.com>
> Subject: Re: More than configured consumers count
>
> [CAUTION: EXTERNAL SENDER]
>
>
> Ekta,
>
> Either there's a not-yet discovered (or fixed since 1.16) software defect
> causing this problem that you are seeing or there's some kind of
> misconfiguration in your setup.  If the software requires patching to fix a
> bug, you will need to go through an upgrade to deploy it.
>
> I would suggest looking at the logs from the router(s) that are involved in
> the issues you are seeing to find some clues as to what is going on.
>
> For example, look for the string "Auto Link Activated" in the logs.  This
> is logged every time the router sets up a producer or consumer on a broker
> connection.  You should see exactly one of these for each auto-link you
> have configured whenever a new broker connection is established.  This
> should shed some light on whether there's a configuration issue or a code
> issue.
>
> -Ted
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:35 PM Ekta Awasthi <ekta.awas...@theodpcorp.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Ted,
> >
> > I agree with you, we can certainly try upgrading but since this issue is
> > happening *directly* in *PROD* and so *frequently*, we need a quick
> > solution to solve these issues. Any help/suggestions will be greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > *Ekta Awasthi*,
> >
> > Engineer, EAI Operations & Support | Office Depot, Inc.
> > 6600 North Military Trail | Boca Raton, FL 33496-2434
> > Office: 561-438-3552 | Mobile: 206-966-5577 |
> ekta.awas...@officedepot.com
> >
> >
> >
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> >:
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> > -As a reminder, the Service Availability Managers should be engaged for
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Ted Ross <tr...@redhat.com>
> > *Sent:* Friday, January 6, 2023 3:37 PM
> > *To:* Ekta Awasthi <ekta.awas...@theodpcorp.com>
> > *Cc:* users@qpid.apache.org <users@qpid.apache.org>; Ajit Tathawade
> > (CompuCom) <ajit.tathaw...@officedepot.com>; Nilesh Khokale
> (Contractor) <
> > nilesh.khok...@officedepot.com>; EAIOpsSupport <
> > eaiopssupp...@officedepot.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: More than configured consumers count
> >
> > [CAUTION: EXTERNAL SENDER]
> >
> > Ekta,
> >
> > One thing you should consider is to bring your Qpid Dispatch Router code
> > up to the latest version.  You are running 1.16.0 which is pretty old.
> > Many bugs have been fixed since 1.16.0.
> >
> > -Ted
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 5:03 PM Ekta Awasthi <ekta.awas...@theodpcorp.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello Ted,
> >
> > Regarding Are the od-broker-1-[ms] connections configured via connectors
> > or listeners? ---> They are configured via connectors only below is an
> > example.
> >
> > #od-broker-1-m connector
> > connector{
> >         name: od-broker-1-m
> >         host: activemq-test-1.odprivatecloud.com
> >         port: 61618
> >         role: route-container
> >         linkCapacity: 40
> >         sslProfile: od-router-2-test-ssl-profile
> >         verifyHostName: no  #Since we have cert/hostname mismatches
> >         #saslMechanisms: PLAIN
> > }
> >
> > *Ekta Awasthi*,
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Ted Ross <tr...@redhat.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 3, 2023 10:43 AM
> > *To:* Ekta Awasthi <ekta.awas...@theodpcorp.com>
> > *Cc:* users@qpid.apache.org <users@qpid.apache.org>; Ajit Tathawade
> > (CompuCom) <ajit.tathaw...@officedepot.com>; Nilesh Khokale
> (Contractor) <
> > nilesh.khok...@officedepot.com>; EAIOpsSupport <
> > eaiopssupp...@officedepot.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: More than configured consumers count
> >
> > [CAUTION: EXTERNAL SENDER]
> >
> > Another question...
> >
> > Are the od-broker-1-[ms] connections configured via connectors or
> > listeners?
> >
> > -Ted
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 10:14 AM Ted Ross <tr...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Happy New Year Ekta,
> >
> > Are your micro-services message producers or consumers?
> >
> > When you see the more-than-expected consumers in Hawtio, get the link
> > status from the routers using "qdstat -l".  There _should_ be one link
> for
> > each auto-link as long as the targeted broker is reachable.  This should
> > provide some clue as to what is happening.
> >
> > -Ted
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 10:01 AM Ekta Awasthi <
> ekta.awas...@theodpcorp.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello Ted,
> >
> > Thank you for your response.
> >
> > We are using AutoLinks for our addresses. Below is an example of a
> > autolink queue in qdrouterd.conf for one activemq broker pair. Thanks
> >
> > address {
> >   prefix: test-queue
> >   waypoint: yes
> > }
> >
> > autoLink {
> >   connection: od-broker-1-m
> >   addr: test-queue
> >   dir: in
> > }
> >
> > autoLink {
> >   connection: od-broker-1-m
> >   addr: test-queue
> >   dir: out
> > }
> >
> > autoLink {
> >   connection: od-broker-1-s
> >   addr: test-queue
> >   dir: in
> > }
> >
> > autoLink {
> >   connection: od-broker-1-s
> >   addr: test-queue
> >   dir: out
> > }
> >
> > *Ekta Awasthi*,
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Ted Ross <tr...@redhat.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 3, 2023 8:47 AM
> > *To:* users@qpid.apache.org <users@qpid.apache.org>
> > *Cc:* Ajit Tathawade (CompuCom) <ajit.tathaw...@officedepot.com>; Nilesh
> > Khokale (Contractor) <nilesh.khok...@officedepot.com>; EAIOpsSupport <
> > eaiopssupp...@officedepot.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: More than configured consumers count
> >
> > [CAUTION: EXTERNAL SENDER]
> >
> > Hi Etka,
> >
> > Can you tell us how you have configured the qdrouters to act as
> > consumers?  Are you using auto-links or are you using link-routed
> addresses?
> >
> > -Ted
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 11:20 AM Ekta Awasthi
> > <ekta.awas...@theodpcorp.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is this the right mailing DL for QPID related queries.
> >
> > Just wondering as I have not heard back but given it is a holiday season,
> > so I will sit back and wait patiently for someone to reply.
> >
> > Thanks In Advance.
> > Ekta Awasthi
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ekta Awasthi <ekta.awas...@theodpcorp.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 1:00 AM
> > To: users@qpid.apache.org <users@qpid.apache.org>
> > Cc: Ajit Tathawade (CompuCom) <ajit.tathaw...@officedepot.com>; Nilesh
> > Khokale (Contractor) <nilesh.khok...@officedepot.com>; EAIOpsSupport <
> > eaiopssupp...@officedepot.com>
> > Subject: More than configured consumers count
> >
> > Hi There,
> >
> > We have few issues with the qpid-dispatch router where we are seeing
> > multiple consumers are getting created randomly by our qpid dispatch
> > routers. We are unable to trace nor able to replicate this issue in our
> > lower env's. Below is the architecture diagram.
> >
> > I apologize if this isn't the right place to ask this question. In case
> > there is another place to communicate, do let me know as this is my first
> > time reaching out regarding qpid query😀 Please provide any suggestions
> or
> > feedback to help us understand this issue better. Thanks
> >
> > Flow:
> > Microservice (Kubernetes) ---> NLB (Load balancer) ---> 2 Qpid-Dispatch
> > Routers acting up as consumers in front of brokers (1.16 version) ---> 4
> > Broker pairs of activemq(2.18 version) masters and slaves (independent
> > pairs)
> >
> > Problem statement # 1
> > We are seeing more than the configured number of consumers count in our
> > activemq hawtio console causing messages to sit in delivering count which
> > are Un browsable since those messages are currently being delivered to
> its
> > consumers. Having only two qpid dispatch routers(acting as consumers)
> > infront of our activemq brokers, the count should always remain 2 but at
> > times it is going 3 sometimes 4. To resolve this issue, we are having to
> > bounce the qpid’s to release the stuck/bad consumer so that messages can
> be
> > processed/consumed.
> >
> > Problem statement # 2
> > At times we see messages going to delivering count even when there are
> > only two configured consumers(2qpids) showing in activemq hawtio console.
> > We don't know the cause to why the messages get stuck in delivering
> count.
> > To resolve this, we tried restarting the consumer service but that did
> not
> > help. Next up we tried restarting the brokers, that did not help and
> > noticed that all the stuck delivering messages, the broker slowly
> replayed
> > back and Eventually the stuck messages came back to delivering count post
> > broker restart. To resolve this issue, we are having to bounce the qpid’s
> > to release the messages and that fixes the issue.
> >
> > Version of qpid-dispatch router
> > qpid-dispatch-router-1.16.0-1.el7.x86_64.rpm
> > qpid-dispatch-tools-1.16.0-1.el7.noarch.rpm
> >
> >
> > Ekta Awasthi
> >
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