I don't have any figures for that, because usually the overhead is
very low compared to the cost of actually processing the exchanges.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Drone42 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Excellent. Glad to see that this was a mis conception on my side.
>
> I have seen different performance figures on ServiceMix, but all related to
> HTTP proxies. Do you know of any performance measurements for collocated
> service units running within the same container?
>
>
>
>
> gnodet wrote:
>>
>> Right.  There are a single process and multiple threads.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Drone42 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>
>>> Thats what I mean with collocation; if running in the same container,
>>> then
>>> exchange should be direct and therefore very fast.
>>>
>>> The JBI standard says 'Note also that this processing is inherently
>>> asynchronous; provider and consumer never share a thread. This also helps
>>> keep components decoupled.' (page 6)
>>>
>>> But of cause this doesnt mean they cant share a process. I guess that
>>> then
>>> only thread switch is needed if running in the same container.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> gnodet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not sure where you read such things about two component instances
>>>> running in different processes.  ServiceMix uses only one process and
>>>> the JBI makes no mention of processes, I guess you misunderstood
>>>> something here.
>>>> Not sure also where you grab your performance figures.
>>>>
>>>> Performances really depends on your use case: if you put two services
>>>> in the bus on the same ServiceMix container, inter-component
>>>> invocation will be amazingly fast (it's just about passing an object
>>>> from one component to the other without any serialization or such).
>>>> If one service invokes the other one by mean of HTTP or JMS or any
>>>> other protocol, the performances will surely drop by a big amount of
>>>> course.
>>>> So unless your services are deployed on two different containers, they
>>>> should use in-VM communication, so it will be fast enough.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Drone42 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm new to JBI and ServiceMIx, but looking into it with great
>>>>> interest...
>>>>> however performance is an issue in the system I'm architecting and
>>>>> looking
>>>>> around the net I see that ServiceMix is fast, but not ammazingly fast.
>>>>>
>>>>> Typical deployments of the system I develop will contain choices on
>>>>> which
>>>>> components to group together on the same node, to improve performance
>>>>> and
>>>>> tradeoff with resource usage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other middlewares, such as CORBA, provides performance optimizations by
>>>>> detecting collocations (i.e. that a consumer and a provider is running
>>>>> in
>>>>> the same component server / process). In this case the midleware will
>>>>> automatically replace any remote calls with a direct call, thereby
>>>>> removing
>>>>> the overhead of writing to and reading from the transport.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why doesn't ServiceSix do the same? I see that JBI even directly
>>>>> mention
>>>>> that two component instances will always run in separate processes. Why
>>>>> force this?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know; I can write a wrapper of the ServiceMix API myself and handle
>>>>> it.
>>>>> But I was thinking that there must be an excellent reason why this is
>>>>> not
>>>>> already done... or?
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Performance-Optimization-through-Collocation-tp20152693p20152693.html
>>>>> Sent from the ServiceMix - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Guillaume Nodet
>> ------------------------
>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> ------------------------
>> Open Source SOA
>> http://fusesource.com
>>
>>
>
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