6. As a new user to SM4, I would not want any kind of JBI stuff and just want OSGi with all the "goodies" that the SM can provide me. Is there any way (profiles or something like that) which I can use fo fulfill this requirement. Actually I want a sleek profile thats just right for a OSGi entrant like me. Plus an optional profile to add NMR + other components like Drools. Possible?
>> You don't need to use a profile. With ServiceMix/Karaf and as explained in my previous email, you deploy the osgi bundles using the features file. So, you can create your own or use existing : http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/servicemix/features/apache-servicemix/4.0-m1/apache-servicemix-4.0-m1-features.xml http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/servicemix/camel/org.apache.servicemix.camel.features/4.0.0/org.apache.servicemix.camel.features-4.0.0-features.xml http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/servicemix/nmr/apache-servicemix-nmr/1.0.0/apache-servicemix-nmr-1.0.0-features.xml In the xxxx.features.cfg file that you will find in the etc folder, you can point to these features files and use the property featureBoot to deploy at the startup of your OSGI server (SM4/Karaf) the features that you want to use/install. Regards, Charles Moulliard Senior Enterprise Architect Apache Camel Committer ***************************** blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Thomas Joseph <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks Charles and Guillaume for your responses. > > > > Note that ServiceMix Kernel has been moved to Felix and is now Karaf. > > > Happy to learn that. I ve been following your blogs, that has pretty much > caused an interest in Service Mix/Karaf. > > > > Note that Karaf can now be started with Equinox. > > To answer your question, if you use your native osgi container + all > > the bundles that come from Karaf, you end up with ... Karaf mostly. > > > > Good to learn that I can switch the OSGi container. > > > > > 2. I want to build OSGi based applications. How can Service Mix help me > > in > > > doing integrations with CXF or Drools, over my native approach to > > integrate > > > them with the OSGi container. What additional benefits? > > > > Nothing really. It will just save you some time because we've worked > > hard on finding all the dependencies, make the OSGi bundles and test > > everything. > > If you just want to use OSGi + CXF, you can try and redo the same work > > if you want. > > > Good to learn on that. Charles, your tutorial is cool. > > > > > > > 3. How is it better to/compatible to/compared to SpringSource DM > server? > > > > The license is first a big difference in itself (Apache Licensed vs > > GPL). Spring dm server afaik also defines some non standard > > extensions to OSGi so if you go that route, you'll be kinda locked to > > it. > > Ok, so you confirmed my belief. > > > > > > > > > 4. Pax Runner recently provides the service mix profiles. How good or > bad > > is > > > that approach when compared to using service mix as such? > > > > The main problem I have with Pax Runner is that it *downloads* > > everything. You have no easy control over what happen when you boot > > the framework and a lot of people can't allow that. > > > > > I think the value of Karaf lies in both its bundles that provides some > > additional features on top of a bare OSGi framework, but also from the > > fact that it's a pre-built server that you can just download and > > install. If you prefer using pax-runner for that, feel free to do so. > > Karaf just aims to save you some time in building your server. > > > I ve been using Pax Runner for some time, and I ve been happy over it on > development. I would be happy to use my learning from there over here. > Actually, my setup with Pax Runner very much looks like the SM distribution > > Now few more questions to add: > > 5. I think the main difference between SM3 and SM4 is JBI vs NMR. NMR is > OSGi + Camel. Am I right? > > 6. As a new user to SM4, I would not want any kind of JBI stuff and just > want OSGi with all the "goodies" that the SM can provide me. Is there any > way (profiles or something like that) which I can use fo fulfill this > requirement. Actually I want a sleek profile thats just right for a OSGi > entrant like me. Plus an optional profile to add NMR + other components > like > Drools. Possible? > > I am sorry if these things are already mentioned somewhere in documentatons > and presentations at SM/FuseSource site, but I would go to spend some time > on it if I can decide if I want to use SM at the first place. > > If some of these things are already not there is SM, I would be happy to > extend my support to develop them. > -- > Thanks and Regards, > /Thomas Joseph > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ethomasjoseph > Twitter: http://twitter.com/ethomasjoseph > Blog: http://openthoughtworks.blogspot.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Promote Open Source - Promote Liberty of Ideas and Software. > ------------------------------------------------------------ >
