Besides to the 3 questions that I posted in my last message. I have another
one that is related to mep.
 I discovered that map  attached to cxf-bc depends on the definition of wsdl
operation (one way or two ways). I cannot override it to in-only pattern.
That mean I cannot use pipeline here. Because it anly receives in-only
Is that correct?

Please suggest


gnanda wrote:
> 
> Hi Freeman,
> In a hurry, I think I did not complete my thought properly in my last
> post.Sorry about that.
> I have three questions  that I like to get suggestion from you
> 1)If I follow eip pattern do I need to use servicemix-bean as a trnsformer
> or is there any better way for this?
> basically the flow is as below
> cxf-bc->servicemix bean->camel
> 
> If I do not want to instantiate servicemix client inside servicemix-bean
> to call camel component then the flow would be as below 
> <eip:pipeline service="test:mycxfbc" endpoint="endpoint">
>   <eip:transformer>
>     <eip:exchange-target service="test:mypojo-bean" />
>   </eip:transformer>
>   <eip:target>
>     <eip:exchange-target service="test:mycamel" />
>   </eip:target>
> </eip:pipeline>
> 
> 2) I looked into the below URL regarding pojo clss deployed as osgi bundle
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SMX4/Creating+an+OSGi+bundle+for+deploying+JBI+endpoints
> 
> If I am not wrong, if I deploy the pojo calss as OSGi as explained above
> URL then  I still need to use messagexchangelistner class and servicemix
> client to receive message from source and send message to the target. Is
> that correct?
> 3)Is there in document available that I can go thru to understand the
> benefit of osgi type of deployement over su-sa deployement?
> Thanks a lot for your time and help
> 
> 
> 
> gnanda wrote:
>> 
>> No that service assmbly is a generic bundle and will be used for every
>> message and every service provided by every product that we are going to
>> support. It does some dynamic routing, business entity lookup etc. I do
>> not want to put service specific validation or service specific
>> processing in this bundle
>> the bundle that receive incoming http message would need to have a unit
>> that will do service/product specific validation/processing
>> Looks like I need to use either servicemix-bean (with servicemix client)
>> or eip (with servicemix-bean as a transformer). If I follow eip pattern
>> do I need to use servicemix-bean as a trnsformer or is there any other
>> way around it?
>> Another related question is, I am moving to OSGI kind of deployement
>> instead of t service assembly type of deployement as I saw some
>> recommendation using OSGI deployement (though not found good comparisone
>> detail, reference to any document explaining pros/cons of both the way
>> would be very helpful)
>> If I use OSGI bundle for defining my bean pojo class then I guess I do
>> not need to extend MessageExchangeListener class. Do I? I think it wuld
>> be a simple pojo class, but how would it receive incoming message
>> exchnage from NMR? Is there any link that i can read to define my
>> servicemix-bean and deploy inside a osgi bundle?</b>
>> I looked into the below URL, but still got properely , how would I
>> receive exchange inside pojo and how would i call target service unit
>> from the pojo class. For my scenario I could replace filler unit poller
>> with cxf-bc that will call servicemix-bean here,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Freeman Fang wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2010-5-14, at 上午3:41, gnanda wrote:
>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Freeman. I am trying to follow the below route
>>>> cxfBC consumer with wsdl->servicemix-bean (pojo)
>>>> I am not made cxfbc worked yet. having classnotfoundexception as below
>>>> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:  
>>>> org.apache.servicemix.cxfbc.CxfBcConsumer
>>>> in classloader
>>>> org.apache.xbean.spring.context.filesystemxmlapplicationcont...@a79f01
>>>> I could deploy wsdl-first example which means I have something wrong  
>>>> in my
>>>> pom or xbean.
>>>>
>>>> I have some questions related to the design of servicemix bean  
>>>> calling camel
>>>> router. Just as a note servicemix bean  class supposed to do some  
>>>> validation
>>>> task on the incoming messages and then call a camel router deployed in
>>>> another service assembly. Camelrouter does dynamic routing to the  
>>>> target
>>>> services using recipient list pattern
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1)I have to call my camel router from servicemix bean. I could pass   
>>>> traget
>>>> servicename and target endpointname from xbean.xml file then inside  
>>>> the
>>>> class file I could use servicemixclient  to call the targetservice.I  
>>>> have
>>>> done this way before for other part of my project but I do not like  
>>>> using
>>>> servicemixclient from the java class.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a better way to call camel router from servicemix bean  
>>>> without
>>>> using servicemixclient inside the bean?
>>>>
>>>> Would eip pipeline a better way to do this? If I use eip  do I need  
>>>> to refer
>>>> my bean class as a transformer?
>>>>
>>>> My taregt here the camel router deployed inside another SA. I would  
>>>> not
>>>> prefer eip pipeline to call camel router.
>>>> Is there a better solution to this design?
>>>>
>>> Then how about not use servicemix-bean(pojo)->camel router, use  
>>> bean(which can do anything you want to for incoming message) in camel  
>>> router directly?
>>> You can just put bean befpre recipientlist, you may need take a look  
>>> at [1] to get details how to use bean inside camel router
>>> [1]http://camel.apache.org/bean.html
>>> 
>>> Freeman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Freeman Fang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Yeah, some thing like
>>>>> servicemix-http or servicemix-cxf-bc(with wsdl)->servicemix- 
>>>>> bean(pojo).
>>>>> You can take a look at [1] how pojo in servicemix-bean works.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]http://servicemix.apache.org/servicemix-bean.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Freeman
>>>>> On 2010-5-13, at 上午5:04, gnanda wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Freeman for the reply. Are you suggesting something like  
>>>>>> below
>>>>>> servicemix http (with wsdl ) -> servicemix-bean(pojo)
>>>>>> The pojo does not need to have have all these operations defined in
>>>>>> WSDL?
>>>>>> Do you have any document available that I can refer to or any  
>>>>>> similar
>>>>>> example that I an follow?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am  following the above design to see if that works.
>>>>>> Please let me know if my inderstanding is incorrect
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Freeman Fang wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, I understand your requirement more clearly now.
>>>>>>> In your case you can't use cxf se endpoint, as cxf se endpoint bind
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> wsdl model strictly, which means it will parse the incoming  
>>>>>>> message,
>>>>>>> and from the message payload and wsdl model it will determine the
>>>>>>> operationName, so you must have extact same interface used for  
>>>>>>> cxf se
>>>>>>> pojo and frontend cxfbc(or http) consumer wsdl.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I think you can use a pojo in servicemix-bean, which can  
>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>> all incoming messages and don't do the operation match from  
>>>>>>> payload,
>>>>>>> in that bean you can do what ever you want and then dispatch to  
>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> stop(camel router in your case).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Freeman
>>>>>>> On 2010-5-11, at 下午10:29, gnanda wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Freeman, thanks for the reply. In my scenario, it is actually
>>>>>>>> other way
>>>>>>>> around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In wsdl I need to have add,delete,update operations but in POJO, I
>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>> have only one operation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To give you little background,  here is my route architecture
>>>>>>>> http endpoint ->pojo service->camel router- queue->camel router-
>>>>>>>>> external
>>>>>>>> webservice
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My external webservice which is in .NET has WSDL. I need to clone
>>>>>>>> that and
>>>>>>>> publish it on my front http endpoint. This WSDL has 5/6  
>>>>>>>> operations.
>>>>>>>> In a
>>>>>>>> ususal scenario I have to create 5/6 operations (kind of donothing
>>>>>>>> operaions) to satisfy WSDL publishing. Is there a way I could just
>>>>>>>> have one
>>>>>>>> method  in my pojo attached to all these operations in WSDLs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In real scenario I do have more than 5 WSDLS with each with 5/6
>>>>>>>> operations.
>>>>>>>> For each WSDL I have a http endpoint but I do not want the
>>>>>>>> corresponding
>>>>>>>> POJO service to have all these  operations defined. These  
>>>>>>>> operations
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> actually being perform by external web services.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could I use cxf proxy? I do have camel router in my route which  
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>> there in between cxf proxy  and external web service, not sure  
>>>>>>>> if it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> possible doing that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Freeman Fang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Use cxf bc endpoint, you must specify a wsdl for it, which  
>>>>>>>>> clearly
>>>>>>>>> define the interface.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For your case, I think you can use a wsdl with one operation
>>>>>>>>> provideRequest, and then in your cxf-se endpoint(or POJO) you can
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> anything you want(add, delete, update) for the incoming message.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Freeman
>>>>>>>>> On 2010-5-11, at 上午12:00, gnanda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone please let me know if have any suggestion how to  
>>>>>>>>>> publish a
>>>>>>>>>> wsdl from a
>>>>>>>>>> http (or cxf bc?) endpoint where the associated cxf-se would  
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>> generic method accpeting messages for any operation defined in  
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> wsdl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For example: My wsdl has operations as addRequest(String xml),
>>>>>>>>>> deleteRequest(String xml), updateRequest(String xml). This wsdl
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> published on the http (cxf-bc?) endpoint
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But the service(cxf-se? or POJO class?) associated with my http
>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>> cxf-bc)
>>>>>>>>>> will have only one method provideRequest(String xml) accepting
>>>>>>>>>> message for
>>>>>>>>>> addRequest(),deleteRequest() and updateRequest()
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How would I proceed doing this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> gnanda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, I have an interesting design issue related to my http
>>>>>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>>>>> and wsdl publishing
>>>>>>>>>>> currently I have below scenario
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> smx:http consumer(no wsdl, accep any well formed soap  
>>>>>>>>>>> message) ->
>>>>>>>>>>> camel
>>>>>>>>>>> router-> external web service
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I need to publish wsdl with my http component but would need to
>>>>>>>>>>> accept any
>>>>>>>>>>> well formed soap message then route to a pojo class to do few
>>>>>>>>>>> validation
>>>>>>>>>>> on my own then route to a camel router then to external web
>>>>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> here is the new flow
>>>>>>>>>>> smx:http consumer(could be cxf bc? , publishing wsdl) -> pojo
>>>>>>>>>>> class
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> doListen()->camel router->external web service
>>>>>>>>>>> Important  point to be noted here are
>>>>>>>>>>> **  the pojo class will not have any operation defined for the
>>>>>>>>>>> operations
>>>>>>>>>>> declared in the wsdl
>>>>>>>>>>> ** doListen() method in the pojo class will receive any  
>>>>>>>>>>> incoming
>>>>>>>>>>> soap
>>>>>>>>>>> message for all operations declared in the wsdl and do a few
>>>>>>>>>>> validation
>>>>>>>>>>> and send to camel router.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How would I proceed doing this? Any suggestion will be very
>>>>>>>>>>> helpful
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Freeman Fang
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Freeman Fang
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Freeman Fang
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Freeman Fang
>>> ------------------------
>>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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