skynare, Check out https://github.com/activecq/com.activecq.api/blob/2.0.0-SNAPSHOT/pom.xml
of how to setup your pom to achieve the deployment of pre-compiled JSPs. the maven-jspc-plugin and maven-bundle-plugin are the key plugs configs to look at. Hope this helps -- David Gonzalez Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) On Monday, May 21, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > The jsp scripting currently requires the jsp source files. If the > correct classes are at /var/classes and have a newer last modified as > the jsp, then the jsp is not recompiled but directly loaded. > > Carsten > > 2012/5/18 sam ” <skyn...@gmail.com (mailto:skyn...@gmail.com)>: > > Just to clarify, I wanted to put compiled jsp classes directly under > > /var/classes/ (and possibly do not include .jsp files in the bundle or > > package at all) so that sling does not have to recompile jsp scripts. > > > > Is this okay? Has anyone successfully done this? If so, is a simple example > > project available? > > > > Goal is to have `mvn install` install the bundle with compiled jsp classes > > as resource under /var/classes. > > Or, `mvn package` creates CRX package with /var/classes only (no /apps/..). > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Felix Meschberger <fmesc...@adobe.com > > (mailto:fmesc...@adobe.com)>wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Am 18.05.2012 um 20:45 schrieb sam ”: > > > > > > > I'm not using maven bundle plugin. > > > > This is actually a CQ project that is built as a CRX Package using > > > > maven-jar-plugin . > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case you might want to use the maven-vault-plugin to create the > > > content package with the jsps and classes in it. > > > > > > Regards > > > Felix > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a sample project that uses maven-bundle-plugin? I use > > > > maven-bundle-plugin to build OSGi bundles only. I never put OSGi bundles > > > > and jsp scripts together. > > > > Is putting jsp scripts with bundle a common practice? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Paul McMahon <oro...@yahoo.com > > > > (mailto:oro...@yahoo.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > If you check out http://sling.apache.org/site/jspc.html and scroll to > > > the > > > > > bottom you will see a note about deployment: > > > > > > > > > > The generated JSP classes as well as the Declarative Services > > > > > descriptor > > > > > are automatically copied to the generated bundle jar file if the Maven > > > > > Bundle Plugin (from the Apache Felix) project is used to build the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > project > > > > > package. > > > > > > > > > > Paul McMahon > > > > > Acquity Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: sam ” <skyn...@gmail.com (mailto:skyn...@gmail.com)> > > > > > To: users@sling.apache.org (mailto:users@sling.apache.org) > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 12:32 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: jspc and java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: > > > > > org/apache/sling/commons/classloader/DynamicClassLoader > > > > > > > > > > <plugin> > > > > > <groupId>org.apache.sling</groupId> > > > > > <artifactId>maven-jspc-plugin</artifactId> > > > > > <executions> > > > > > <execution> > > > > > <id>compile-jsp</id> > > > > > <goals> > > > > > <goal>jspc</goal> > > > > > </goals> > > > > > <configuration> > > > > > > > > > > <sourceDirectory>${basedir}/src/main/content/jcr_root</sourceDirectory> > > > > > </configuration> > > > > > </execution> > > > > > </executions> > > > > > <dependencies> > > > > > <dependency> > > > > > <groupId>org.apache.sling</groupId> > > > > > > > > > > <artifactId>org.apache.sling.commons.classloader</artifactId> > > > > > <version>1.2.2</version> > > > > > </dependency> > > > > > </dependencies> > > > > > </plugin> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can I put compiled jsp classes to the repository (under > > > /var/classes)? > > > > > A bunch of curl commands? There are around 1000 jsp/class files. > > > > > I don't want to put jsp files but class files only to the repository. > > > > > Or, I don't want to have the application compile jsp on the fly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:13 PM, sam ” <skyn...@gmail.com > > > > > (mailto:skyn...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hrm.. > > > > > > I did build maven-jspc-plugin with commons.classloader as dependency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > runtime scope and compile scope, too. > > > > > > And, I used that built plugin to compile my jsp files. > > > > > > But both failed with the same error. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try again > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Felix Meschberger > > > > > > <fmesc...@adobe.com (mailto:fmesc...@adobe.com) > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, this sounds like the commons.classloader should be a compile > > > > > > > dependency of the jspc plugin such that on runtime the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commons.classloader > > > > > > > is visible to the plugin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You might try to add the commons.classloader as a dependency to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > plugin declaration and see whether it works. If so, you might > > > > > > > create > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > issue asking for the commons.classloader dependency to be > > > > > > > explicitly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > added > > > > > > > to the jspc plugin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Felix > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 16.05.2012 um 18:03 schrieb sam ”: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I modified maven script to include > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.commons.classloader-1.2.2.jar in classpath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exec "$JAVACMD" \ > > > > > > > > $MAVEN_OPTS \ > > > > > > > > -classpath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "${HOME}/.m2/repository/org/apache/sling/org.apache.sling.commons.classloader/1.2.2/org.apache.sling.commons.classloader-1.2.2.jar:${M2_HOME}/boot/classworlds-1.1.jar" > > > > > > > > \ > > > > > > > > "-Dclassworlds.conf=${M2_HOME}/bin/m2.conf" \ > > > > > > > > "-Dmaven.home=${M2_HOME}" \ > > > > > > > > ${CLASSWORLDS_LAUNCHER} $QUOTED_ARGS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then jspc works without complaining. > > > > > > > > Why would jspc use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.commons.classloader.DynamicClassLoader > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would DynamicClassLoader have to be added to jvm's > > > > > > > > classpath ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:14 AM, sam ” <skyn...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > (mailto:skyn...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using maven-jspc-plugin 2.0.7-SNAPSHOT to compile jsp > > > > > > > > > files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I get the following error. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $ mvn clean compile > > > > > > > > > [INFO] [clean:clean {execution: default-clean}] > > > > > > > > > [INFO] [enforcer:enforce {execution: enforce-java}] > > > > > > > > > [INFO] [resources:resources {execution: default-resources}] > > > > > > > > > [INFO] Using 'UTF-8' encoding to copy filtered resources. > > > > > > > > > [INFO] Copying 1 resource > > > > > > > > > [INFO] Copying 6 resources to META-INF > > > > > > > > > [INFO] Copying 2574 resources to jcr_root > > > > > > > > > [INFO] [compiler:compile {execution: default-compile}] > > > > > > > > > [INFO] Nothing to compile - all classes are up to date > > > > > > > > > [INFO] [jspc:jspc {execution: compile-jsp}] > > > > > > > > > [FATAL ERROR] org.apache.sling.maven.jspc.JspcMojo#execute() > > > > > > > > > caused > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > linkage error (java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError) and may be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out-of-date. > > > > > > > > > Check the realms: > > > > > > > > > [FATAL ERROR] Plugin realm = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > app0.child-container[org.apache.sling:maven-jspc-plugin:2.0.7-SNAPSHOT] > > > > > > > > > urls[0] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/apache/sling/maven-jspc-plugin/2.0.7-SNAPSHOT/maven-jspc-plugin-2.0.7-SNAPSHOT.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[1] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/apache/sling/org.apache.sling.api/2.2.2/org.apache.sling.api-2.2.2.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[2] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/apache/sling/org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp/2.0.18/org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp-2.0.18.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[3] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/apache/tomcat/jsp-api/6.0.14/jsp-api-6.0.14.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[4] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/apache/tomcat/el-api/6.0.14/el-api-6.0.14.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[5] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/apache/tomcat/servlet-api/6.0.14/servlet-api-6.0.14.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[6] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/apache/tomcat/jasper-el/6.0.14/jasper-el-6.0.14.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[7] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/apache/tomcat/jasper-jdt/6.0.14/jasper-jdt-6.0.14.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[8] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/javax/servlet/servlet-api/2.5/servlet-api-2.5.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[9] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/javax/servlet/jsp/jsp-api/2.1/jsp-api-2.1.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[10] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/commons-io/commons-io/1.4/commons-io-1.4.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[11] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/commons-logging/commons-logging/1.0.4/commons-logging-1.0.4.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[12] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/apache/maven/maven-archiver/2.0/maven-archiver-2.0.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[13] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/codehaus/plexus/plexus-utils/1.1/plexus-utils-1.1.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[14] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/codehaus/plexus/plexus-archiver/1.0-alpha-3/plexus-archiver-1.0-alpha-3.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[15] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/slf4j/slf4j-api/1.5.2/slf4j-api-1.5.2.jar > > > > > > > > > urls[16] = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file:/home/sam/.m2/repository/org/slf4j/slf4j-simple/1.5.2/slf4j-simple-1.5.2.jar > > > > > > > > > [FATAL ERROR] Container realm = plexus.core > > > > > > > > > urls[0] = file:/home/sam/opt/maven/lib/maven-2.2.1-uber.jar > > > > > > > > > [INFO] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > [ERROR] FATAL ERROR > > > > > > > > > [INFO] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > [INFO] org/apache/sling/commons/classloader/DynamicClassLoader > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.commons.classloader.DynamicClassLoader > > > > > > > > > [INFO] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > [INFO] Trace > > > > > > > > > java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: > > > > > > > > > org/apache/sling/commons/classloader/DynamicClassLoader > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.loadTagFile(JspServletWrapper.java:241) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.TagFileProcessor.loadTagFile(TagFileProcessor.java:574) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.TagFileProcessor.access$000(TagFileProcessor.java:49) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.TagFileProcessor$TagFileLoaderVisitor.visit(TagFileProcessor.java:625) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.Node$CustomTag.accept(Node.java:1507) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.Node$Nodes.visit(Node.java:2338) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.Node$Visitor.visitBody(Node.java:2388) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.Node$Visitor.visit(Node.java:2394) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.Node$Root.accept(Node.java:489) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.Node$Nodes.visit(Node.java:2338) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.TagFileProcessor.loadTagFiles(TagFileProcessor.java:643) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.Compiler.generateJava(Compiler.java:191) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.scripting.jsp.jasper.compiler.Compiler.compile(Compiler.java:311) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.maven.jspc.JspcMojo.processFile(JspcMojo.java:362) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.maven.jspc.JspcMojo.executeInternal(JspcMojo.java:316) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.maven.jspc.JspcMojo.execute(JspcMojo.java:228) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.maven.plugin.DefaultPluginManager.executeMojo(DefaultPluginManager.java:490) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.executeGoals(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:694) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.executeGoalWithLifecycle(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:556) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.executeGoal(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:535) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.executeGoalAndHandleFailures(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:387) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.executeTaskSegments(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:348) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.execute(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:180) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.doExecute(DefaultMaven.java:328) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.execute(DefaultMaven.java:138) > > > > > > > > > at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.main(MavenCli.java:362) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.maven.cli.compat.CompatibleMain.main(CompatibleMain.java:60) > > > > > > > > > at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native > > > > > > > > > Method) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) > > > > > > > > > at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.codehaus.classworlds.Launcher.launchEnhanced(Launcher.java:315) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > org.codehaus.classworlds.Launcher.launch(Launcher.java:255) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.codehaus.classworlds.Launcher.mainWithExitCode(Launcher.java:430) > > > > > > > > > at org.codehaus.classworlds.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:375) > > > > > > > > > Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: > > > > > > > > > org.apache.sling.commons.classloader.DynamicClassLoader > > > > > > > > > at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:202) > > > > > > > > > at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native > > > > > > > > > Method) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190) > > > > > > > > > at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.codehaus.classworlds.RealmClassLoader.loadClassDirect(RealmClassLoader.java:195) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.codehaus.classworlds.DefaultClassRealm.loadClass(DefaultClassRealm.java:255) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.codehaus.classworlds.DefaultClassRealm.loadClass(DefaultClassRealm.java:274) > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > org.codehaus.classworlds.RealmClassLoader.loadClass(RealmClassLoader.java:214) > > > > > > > > > at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247) > > > > > > > > > ... 35 more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you use jspc plugin? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my pom.xml is > > > > > > > > > <build> > > > > > > > > > <plugins> > > > > > > > > > <plugin> > > > > > > > > > <groupId>org.apache.sling</groupId> > > > > > > > > > <artifactId>maven-jspc-plugin</artifactId> > > > > > > > > > <executions> > > > > > > > > > <execution> > > > > > > > > > <id>compile-jsp</id> > > > > > > > > > <goals> > > > > > > > > > <goal>jspc</goal> > > > > > > > > > </goals> > > > > > > > > > <configuration> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sourceDirectory>${basedir}/src/main/content/jcr_root</sourceDirectory> > > > > > > > > > </configuration> > > > > > > > > > </execution> > > > > > > > > > </executions> > > > > > > > > > </plugin> > > > > > > > > > </plugins> > > > > > > > > > </build> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And, I get the same error even if I put this in dependencies: > > > > > > > > > <dependency> > > > > > > > > > <groupId>org.apache.sling</groupId> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <artifactId>org.apache.sling.commons.classloader</artifactId> > > > > > > > > > <version>1.2.2</version> > > > > > > > > > </dependency> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Carsten Ziegeler > cziege...@apache.org (mailto:cziege...@apache.org) > >