On 23 Feb 2011, at 19:45, Paul van der Vlis <[email protected]> wrote:
> Op 23-02-11 20:23, Mark Adams schreef: >> >> On 23 Feb 2011, at 19:12, Paul van der Vlis >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Op 23-02-11 19:54, Jim Carter schreef: >>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2011, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >>>> >>>>> I expect it's possible to change the Sogo plugins to accept >>>>> version 3.0.11. But what is the reason to depend on Thunderbird >>>>> version 3.1? Maybe these bugs are fixed in Debian. >>>> >>>> My experience is with openSUSE so I can't help with >>>> Debian-specific issues, but the Lightning plugin will only >>>> install in Thunderbird 3.1.x, not 3.0.x. >>> >>> Hmm, you are right, the sogo-integrator-extention does install >>> without any problem, so it's only a problem with Lightning, and I >>> can use Lightning 1.0-b1 from Debian (called "iceowl-extention"), >>> or the 1.0-b2 xpi from Mozilla. >>> >>>> I imagine that the SOGo plugins are based on or closely related >>>> to Lightning and rely on infrastructure added in the newer >>>> version. >>>> >>>> On my net I obtained Thunderbird 3.1.6 from the SuSE Build >>>> Service so we could use Lightning (with a CalDAV server which we >>>> hope to replace with SOGo). >>> >>> Does this build service also create Debian packages? >>> >>>> Likely a recent version of Icedove can be found in Debian's >>>> "unstable" collection. >>> >>> There is only a 3.1.7 in "experimental". When an package is in >>> experimental this means there is something wrong. >> >> This isn't necessarily true, it just means it hasn't been tested >> thoroughly by the debian team I believe. > > from: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.en.html > --------- > Experimental is used for packages which are still being developed, and > with a high risk of breaking your system. It's used by developers who'd > like to study and test bleeding edge software. Users shouldn't be using > packages from here, because they can be dangerous and harmful even for > the most experienced people. > --------- > >> If you want recent Mozilla >> software it has to come from Experimental. I run icedove and >> iceweasel with sogo plugins. > > Icedove from experimental? > Do you see problems? Yes and it works well, remember this is the current STABLE release from Mozilla. > >> Easy enough to install also, just put the experimental apt sources >> in then install with apt-get -t experimental... That package will >> stay at that level and all others should stay squeeze. > > I know how to install from experimental, but it can break your system. > It would be nice to know why it is in experimental. > > But as I said, it's not a good idea for normal users, because they need > security support. > If I remember correctly, icedove doesn't have any other dependancies. It's a single package that, for me atleast, works fine in squeeze. I've been using icedove and iceweasel packages dim experimental for over a year.. The only bugs have been the ones noted by Mozilla... I take your point about end users though... I'm not sure why they take so long to become stable in debian. > With regards, > Paul van der Vlis. > > > > -- > [email protected] > https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- [email protected] https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
