* Beat Horn <users@sogo.nu>:
> thanks for all your answers. There is no mailserver on that machine (yet) -
> the idea was to setup a slim and performant solution communicating with ah
> existing external hosters mailserver. this could be done with tine or

Yes. I understood that idea. Its a product use case SOGo developers might not
have on their list (yet).

> oxchange but those are either slow or not slim at all. Maybe I should
> consider postfix as proposed. But still I think that smtp auth included in
> SOGo would be a good idea.

+1

p@rick


> rgds
> Beat
> 
> 2011/10/16 Patrick Ben Koetter <p...@state-of-mind.de>
> 
> > * Martin Rabl <users@sogo.nu>:
> > > Update ... ;-)
> > >
> > > Am 16.10.11 22:01, schrieb Martin Rabl:
> > > >Am 16.10.11 19:53, schrieb starfish:
> > > >>looks like many people miss smtp-auth. will it be available in SOGo 2 ?
> > > >SOGo itself delivers into the configured smarthost.
> > > Ok, when you need another mailserver (than the smarthost), which
> > > wants SOGo to authenticate itself, there could be a need.
> >
> > Strictly speaking an SMTP server that accepts messages from SOGo becomes an
> > MSA
> > (message submission agent). MSAs are special, because messages originiate
> > from
> > MSAs. Messages enter the mail transfer at the MSA and then relays and
> > border
> > filters (vulgo: Gateway) transfer it closer to the final destination where
> > it
> > they are delivered to an MDA.
> >
> > As an MSA the SMTP server has the special role to ensure the message
> > conforms
> > to Internet standards (complete envelope addresses etc.) and the MSA must
> > (!)
> > ensure the message was submitted only by authorized senders.
> >
> > The RFC for Submission states a client MUST use SMTP AUTH before it
> > authorizes
> > the client to submit the message and it MAY use TLS (to protect weak AUTH
> > mechanisms).
> >
> > I think if SOGo and MTA/MSA are on the same host, it should suffice to
> > create
> > a dedicated server instance that lets only clients from 127.0.0.1 submit
> > messages and do the MSA checks at this level. Something like this in
> > Postfix
> > master.cf will probably do:
> >
> > 127.0.0.1:25 inet n    -       n       -       -     smtpd
> >    -o smtpd_delay_reject=no
> >    -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
> >    -o smtpd_helo_restrictions=
> >    -o
> > smtpd_sender_restrictions=reject_non_fqdn_sender,reject_unknown_sender_domain
> >    -o
> > smtpd_recipient_restrictions=reject_non_fqdn_recipient,reject_unknown_recipient_domain,permit_mynetworks,reject
> >    -o smtpd_data_restrictions=reject_unauth_pipelining
> >    -o smtpd_end_of_data_restrictions=
> >    -o smtpd_restriction_classes=
> >    -o mynetworks=127.0.0.1/32
> >    -o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0
> >    -o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0
> >    -o
> > receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks
> >    -o local_header_rewrite_clients=
> >
> > And yes, if SOGo submits messages to an MSA that isn't on the same host
> > SOGo
> > should use SMTP AUTH.
> >
> >
> > > But, in this case IMHO it would be a better setup SOGo to deliver
> > > Mails to the localhost-mailserver, which is configured to relay to
> > > the mailserver with the smtp-auth-need.
> > > Easy setup ...
> > >
> > http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/smtp_auth_mailservers.html
> > >
> > > (Thank you, Patrick)
> >
> > Glad it is still of help. :)
> >
> > p@rick
> >
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