Dear PerLinux:
The Cloud is just a alternate word for the Internet, a pseudonym-- there
was a representative graphic for the "greater Internet"- it was a
drawing of a cloud on networking schematic diagrams-- hence the annoying
word used today. I too don't think Internet storage of data(a.k.a. the
cloud) makes this sense as a universal strategy or even long term
possibility- it is not secure and reliable - necessitates having an
accessible internet and that is not always assured and even with secure
data centers is still not very secure. In some forms it is a replay of
thin client fat server model and other forms it is more data based-
multi device- single user- beneficial, but all of that can be done more
reliably and securely with user-side; user-controlled systems.
On 07/07/2012 01:23 PM, PerLinux.it wrote:
Cloud is something temporary.
When people will understand how important is to have control on your
data they will quickly forget about this crap innovation.
Patrick Ben Koetter <[email protected]> ha scritto:
* Sean M. Pappalardo <[email protected]>:
>
>
> On 07/07/2012 06:55 PM, Sven Schwedas wrote:
> >Since Mozilla is now trying even harder to kill Thunderbird (
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Proposal:_New_Release_and_Governance_Model
), are there any alternative mail clients that are platform
independent and support Cal-/CardDAV?
>
> What do you mean? That article only reads to me that Mozilla isn't
> itself interested in making enhancements to Thunderbird, but will
> continue to maintain it for security updates and community
> contributions. This sounds fine to me because, besides LDAP editing
> directly in Thunderbird, and a revamped address book (which is in
> the works) what else does it even need?
Things that come to mind:
- SIEVE and managesieve support
- IMAP ACL support including a GUI to manage ACLs
- a protocol independent addressbook
- CardDAV support for addressbook
- read/write LDAP support for addressbook incl. a cache for offline usage
- notes
- a reasonable way to set/entforce company wide policies for business use
- enhanced autoconfiguration
> It sounds to me like there's no cause for alarm.
Everyone is moving to the cloud. Applications become web-applications.
People
like web applications because they don't need to configure them. They only
need to login. Browsers are becoming universal clients executing any
kind of
application you can think of. Look at what the recent years added to
browsers:
Offline caches, HTML 5, ability to run C-code applications within the
browser.
The days of many desktop clients are counted. It makes sense for
Mozilla to
drop the desktop client "Thunderbird". It's time they moved on.
Mozilla is the
OSS Desktop Client Company per se and desktop clients are a dying species.
That probably explains why they gather all ressources around Firefox OS.
My problem with them dropping Thunderbird is, I don't see some important
problems solved that should be solved before everyone uses webclients.
Webclients assume you are always online, but - at least in Germany - being
always online still is more of a marketing promise than a usable reality.
I don't see how I would always have enough bandwidth to download
everything
required to run a fat web client that does mail. Neither do I see my
browser
being able to do what a mail client can do in offline mode. How would
you use
your mail/groupware client when you are offline in a browser? Tell a sales
person he will have to use a webclient that does mail to download contract
papers while he's on the road somewhere in the outback…
But then - I was told so - that's not a problem for Mozilla because
they never
promised Thunderbird would be a good business mail client. Mozillas target
group for Thunderbird was/is private users. So by their standards they
aren't
breaking a promise.
Problem is: Thunderbird seems to be the only acceptable mail client
that runs
on all desktop platforms. When it will be gone costs will increase if
you need
to provide a groupware/mail client on more than one platform.
The big question for me is: Thunderbird seems to play a major role in
SOGos
client model. What will SOGo/inverse do? Fork Thunderbird and maintain a
dedicated SOGo client? Forget Thunderbird and focus on the web user
interface?
p@rick
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