Thanks for the response Joel.

We do not use "Real-time-get" queries. Also, we don't query the index while
a particular stage of bulk indexing is going on. Would it still help to
enable soft commits?

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 3:16 PM Joel Bernstein <joels...@gmail.com> wrote:

> First thing to try is turning on softcommits. You need to open new
> searchers while indexing to free up the memory used to support
> real-time-get queries. Real-time-get supports queries on uncommitted data,
> so to support this a memory component is needed for records that are
> indexed, but not yet visible. Opening a new searcher will make these
> records visible and free the memory.
>
>
>
> Joel Bernstein
> http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 2:54 PM Pratik Patel <pra...@semandex.net> wrote:
>
> > Solr Cloud version is 8.5. I have also attached the solr log with gc
> > enabled and our app log which shows that there was
> SocketTimeoutException.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 2:31 PM Pratik Patel <pra...@semandex.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> *tl;dr* : running into long GC pauses and solr client socket timeouts
> >> when indexing bulk of documents into solr. Commit strategy in essence
> is to
> >> do hard commits at the interval of 50k documents (maxDocs=50k) and
> disable
> >> soft commit altogether during bulk indexing. Simple solr cloud set up
> with
> >> one node and one shard.
> >>
> >> *Details*:
> >> We have about 6 million documents which we are trying to index into
> solr.
> >> From these, about 500k documents have a text field which holds
> Abstracts of
> >> scientific papers/Articles. We extract keywords from these Abstracts
> and we
> >> index these keywords as well into solr.
> >>
> >> We have a many to many kind of relationship between Articles and
> >> keywords. To store this, we have following structure.
> >>
> >> Article documents
> >> Keyword documents
> >> Article-Keyword Join documents
> >>
> >> We use block join to index Articles with "Article-Keyword" join
> documents
> >> and Keyword documents are indexed independently.
> >>
> >> In other words, we have blocks of "Article + Article-Keyword Joins" and
> >> we have Keyword documents(they hold some additional metadata about
> >> keyword ).
> >>
> >> We have a bulk processing operation which creates these documents and
> >> indexes them into solr. During this bulk indexing, we don't need
> documents
> >> to be searchable. We need to search against them only after ALL the
> >> documents are indexed.
> >>
> >> *Based on this, this is our current strategy. *
> >> Soft commits are disabled and Hard commits are done at an interval of
> 50k
> >> documents with openSearcher=false. Our code triggers explicit commits 4
> >> times after various stages of bulk indexing. Transaction logs are
> enabled
> >> and have default settings.
> >>
> >>     <autoCommit>
> >>       <maxTime>${solr.autoCommit.maxTime:-1}</maxTime>
> >>       <maxDocs>${solr.autoCommit.maxDocs:50000}</maxDocs>
> >>       <openSearcher>false</openSearcher>
> >>     </autoCommit>
> >>
> >>     <autoSoftCommit>
> >>       <maxTime>${solr.autoSoftCommit.maxTime:-1}</maxTime>
> >>     </autoSoftCommit>
> >>
> >> Other Environmental Details:
> >> Xms=8g and Xmx=14g, solr client socketTimeout=7 minutes and
> >> zkClienttimeout=2 mins
> >> Our indexing operation triggers many "add" operations in parallel using
> >> RxJava (15 to 30 threads) each "add" operation is passed about 1000
> >> documents.
> >>
> >> Currently, when we run this indexing operation, we notice that after a
> >> while solr goes into long GC pauses (longer than our sockeTimeout of 7
> >> minutes) and we get SocketTimeoutExceptions.
> >>
> >> *What could be causing such long GC pauses?*
> >>
> >> *Does this commit strategy make sense ? If not, what is the recommended
> >> strategy that we can look into? *
> >>
> >> *Any help on this is much appreciated. Thanks.*
> >>
> >>
>

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