I've also found that: CONTAINER.fs.coreRoot.spins: true Can be this considered a problem so huge as to affect the overall performance?
On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 6:46 PM Dave <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Walter I agree, but with large indexes (850+Gb before merge) I just found > 31 to be my happy spot. As well as set xms and xmx to the same value, I > have no proof but it seems to take less processing to keep them the same > than to keep allocating different memory footprints > > > On Mar 18, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Vincenzo D'Amore <v.dam...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I did it right now in prod environment: > > { > > "responseHeader":{ > > "zkConnected":true, > > "status":0, > > "QTime":1943, > > "params":{ > > "q":"*:*", > > "rows":"1"}}, > > > > then for a while, the QTime is 0. I assume (obviously) that it is cached, > > but after a while the cache expires.... > > > >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 6:22 PM Dave <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I’ve found that each solr instance will take as many cores as it needs > per > >> request. Your 2 sec response sounds like you just started the server and > >> then did that search. I never trust the first search as nothing has been > >> put into memory yet. I like to give my jvms 31 gb each and let Linux > cache > >> the rest of the files as it sees fit, with swap turned completely off. > Also > >> *:* can be heavier than you think if you have every field indexed since > >> it’s like a punch card like system where all the fields have to match. > >> > >>> On Mar 18, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Vincenzo D'Amore <v.dam...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks for your support, just sharing what I found until now. > >>> > >>> I'm working with SolrCloud with a 2 node deployment. This deployment > has > >>> many indexes but a main one 160GB index that has become very slow. > >>> Select *:* rows=1 take 2 seconds. > >>> SolrCloud instances are running in kubernetes and are deployed in a pod > >>> with 128GB RAM but only 16GB to JVM. > >>> Looking at Solr Documentation I've found nothing specific about what > >>> happens to the performance if the number of CPUs is not correctly > >> detected. > >>> The only interesting page is the following and it seems to match with > >> your > >>> suggestion. > >>> At the end of paragraph there is a not very clear reference about how > the > >>> Concurrent Merge Scheduler behavior can be impacted by the number of > >>> detected CPUs. > >>> > >>>> Similarly, the system property lucene.cms.override_core_count can be > set > >>> to the number of CPU cores to override the auto-detected processor > count. > >>> > >>>> Talking Solr to Production > Dynamic Defaults for > >> ConcurrentMergeScheduler > >>>> > >>> > >> > https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_3/taking-solr-to-production.html#dynamic-defaults-for-concurrentmergescheduler > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 1:22 PM Thomas Matthijs <li...@selckin.be> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I don't know how it affects solr, but if you're interested in java's > >>>> support to detect cgroup/container limits on cpu/memory etc, you can > use > >>>> these links as starting points to investigate. > >>>> It affect some jvm configuration, like initial GC selection & settings > >>>> that can affect performance. > >>>> It was only backported to java 8 quite recently, so if you're still on > >>>> that might want to check if you're on the latest version. > >>>> > >>>> https://bugs.java.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=JDK-8146115 > >>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8264136 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, at 01:11, Vincenzo D'Amore wrote: > >>>>> Hi Shawn, thanks for your help. > >>>>> > >>>>> Given that I’ll put the question in another way. > >>>>> If Java don’t correctly detect the number of CPU how the overall > >>>>> performance can be affected by this? > >>>>> > >>>>> Ciao, > >>>>> Vincenzo > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> mobile: 3498513251 > >>>>> skype: free.dev > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 16 Mar 2022, at 18:56, Shawn Heisey <elyog...@elyograg.org> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 3/16/22 03:56, Vincenzo D'Amore wrote: > >>>>>>> just asking how can I rely on the number of processors the solr > >>>> dashboard > >>>>>>> shows. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Just to give you a context, I have a 2 nodes solrcloud instance > >>>> running in > >>>>>>> kubernetes. > >>>>>>> Looking at solr dashboard (8.3.0) I see there is only 1 cpu > available > >>>> per > >>>>>>> solr instance. > >>>>>>> but the Solr pods are deployed in two different kube nodes, and > >>>> entering > >>>>>>> the pod with the > >>>>>>> kubectl exec -ti solr-0 -- /bin/bash > >>>>>>> and running top I see there are 16 cores available for each solr > >>>> instance. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The dashboard info comes from Java, and Java gets it from the OS. > How > >>>> that works with containers is something I don't know much about. > Here's > >>>> what Linux says about a server I have which has two six-core Intel > CPUs > >>>> with hyperthreading. This is bare metal, not a VM or container: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> elyograg@smeagol:~$ grep processor /proc/cpuinfo > >>>>>> processor : 0 > >>>>>> processor : 1 > >>>>>> processor : 2 > >>>>>> processor : 3 > >>>>>> processor : 4 > >>>>>> processor : 5 > >>>>>> processor : 6 > >>>>>> processor : 7 > >>>>>> processor : 8 > >>>>>> processor : 9 > >>>>>> processor : 10 > >>>>>> processor : 11 > >>>>>> processor : 12 > >>>>>> processor : 13 > >>>>>> processor : 14 > >>>>>> processor : 15 > >>>>>> processor : 16 > >>>>>> processor : 17 > >>>>>> processor : 18 > >>>>>> processor : 19 > >>>>>> processor : 20 > >>>>>> processor : 21 > >>>>>> processor : 22 > >>>>>> processor : 23 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If I start Solr on that server, the dashboard reports 24 processors. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Shawn > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Vincenzo D'Amore > >> > > > > > > -- > > Vincenzo D'Amore > -- Vincenzo D'Amore