Hi Sachin,
I executed the same set of learning to rank queries (50 queries) with and
without feature extraction on the same Solr collection and on three
different Solr versions: 8.2, 8.7, and 8.8.
Here are the obtained results:
[image: image.png]

Since I cannot reproduce the degradation you are referring to, could you
give me some further information about the schema, documents,
models/features, and queries you are using?
It would really help.

Thank you,
*Anna Ruggero*
R&D Machine Learning / Software Engineer, Search Consultant
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On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 12:45 PM Alessandro Benedetti <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Sachin, you didn't reply to the whole mailing list, just did, Anna will
> follow up with some investigation and reproduction we are trying.
>
> Cheers
> --------------------------
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> On Tue, 27 Sept 2022 at 18:30, sachin gk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alessandro,
>>
>> Please find my analysis attached. I didn't try it on 8.7. we were more
>> intrested in avg time than p95.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sachin
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Sep, 2022, 21:31 Alessandro Benedetti, <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So you noticed that the degradation was also there pre 8.8 (<8.8)?
>>> Have you identified the first version having the regression?
>>> Was it there with 8.7, this information would help a lot!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> --------------------------
>>> *Alessandro Benedetti*
>>> Director @ Sease Ltd.
>>> *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>>> *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>>>
>>> e-mail: [email protected]
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Sept 2022 at 12:27, sachin gk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Alessandro,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry Missed the mail , the degradation continued to exist with various
>>>> higher versions. So we dropped the upgrade idea as we are in 8.2 version
>>>> solr.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Sep, 2022, 19:21 Alessandro Benedetti, <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sachin,
>>>>> We didn't get any update on this.
>>>>> As an Apache Solr committer, I deeply care to provide the best
>>>>> software possible to our users.
>>>>> As a user, you can do your part in helping us understand possible bugs
>>>>> and regressions.
>>>>> Let us know and we can try to identify the regression and fix it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>> *Alessandro Benedetti*
>>>>> Director @ Sease Ltd.
>>>>> *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>>>>> *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>>>>>
>>>>> e-mail: [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
>>>>> Consulting | Training | Open Source
>>>>>
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>>>>> <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 at 12:22, Alessandro Benedetti <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sachin,
>>>>>> Any update on this?
>>>>>> This could be very important for the community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We may end up discovering and fixing a bug, so please get in touch
>>>>>> with all the info you have!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>> *Alessandro Benedetti*
>>>>>> CEO @ Sease Ltd.
>>>>>> *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>>>>>> *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> e-mail: [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 at 15:39, Alessandro Benedetti <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sachin,
>>>>>>> can you try also Solr 8.7 and Solr 8.8?
>>>>>>> In 8.8 has been introduced new functionality in LTR which is
>>>>>>> Interleaving.
>>>>>>> It shouldn't affect performance though, so we need to understand
>>>>>>> when the regression happened, to fix it.
>>>>>>> Your help is much appreciated,
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>>> *Alessandro Benedetti*
>>>>>>> CEO @ Sease Ltd.
>>>>>>> *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>>>>>>> *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> e-mail: [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
>>>>>>> Consulting | Training | Open Source
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 at 13:26, sachin gk <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have recently upgraded the solr from 8.2.0 to 8.8.2. During the
>>>>>>>> performance testing it was observed that Response time for the LTR
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> degraded by 35%.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LTR Implementation details:
>>>>>>>> Model class : MultipleAdditiveTreesModel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Out of the box classes are used for the implementation, we are
>>>>>>>> unable to
>>>>>>>> pin point what is causing the degradation as it is internal to solr.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a configuration that needs to be taken care ? any ponter
>>>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>>>> this wil be. of great help
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Sachin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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